Showing posts with label DCA Marvel Land. Show all posts
Showing posts with label DCA Marvel Land. Show all posts

Wednesday, July 25, 2018

DCA Marvel Land : Is There Enough Space at California Adventure to Build the E-Ticket Avengers Ride?



After Monday's article talking about the Spiderman attraction coming to Disney's California Adventure HERE we'll have a look today to check if there is enough room at DCA if Disney wants to build in DCA Marvel land the big E-Ticket Avengers ride coming to HKDL in 2023, the one that you can see the building on the left part of the above below, the right part showing what is already built, the building totally on the right under the Avengers plane is where was previously the Buzz Lightyear ride and where HKDL Imagineers currently create the Ant-Man and The Wasp: Nano Battle! attraction, as the name of the new ride was revealed today.


First, i remind you that on all three posters announcing the Marvel lands at HKDL, DCA and DLP WDS the Avengers plane is clearly visible on the posters. Note however that it doesn't necessarily mean that the Avengers attraction will be built in each park as the theme of the posters is basically "Assemble with the Avengers" and not mention specifically an Avengers ride.


That said, let's try to check what space would be needed for the Avengers ride by having a look with Google Earth to HKDL Tomorrowland from above. The great thing with Google Earth is that you can define a zone and it tells you how many square meter ( or square feet ) it makes. So, the yellow lines of the polygon on the satellite view below is where i think will be built the Avengers ride in HKDL Tomorrowland, according to the artwork.

Google Earth tells us that it makes a space of 12019 square meters ( or 129372 square feet ). 12000 sqm is a huge space for a show building. To give you an idea DLP Pirates of Caribbean show building which is the biggest one at Disneyland Paris makes a bit less than that, and this when is count the outdoor entrance area and the POTC shop as well as the Blue Lagoon restaurant.


So, let's see now if there is a space more or less as big as 12019 sqm at California Adventure. Almost every fan know they will use the space / parking lot located behind Cars Land or Tower of Terror, something confirmed regularly by sources and rumors. But do they have a space here big enough for the same Avengers ride?

The answer is ...yes, they do as, as you can see on the satellite view below the polygon i did makes 12619 sqm! ( 135830 sqf ). You'll notice that i didn't include the green buildings with white roof on the right. There is a reason for that as these building are where the Food and Wine Festival food is coming from. Cast members have to walk across that parking lot with a food Cambro to deliver food to each market place during the festival. At DCA the market places are starting from the entrance area of Bugs Land and ending at Golden Zephyr, in Paradise Pier across from the Little Mermaid ride, so far away from this parking lot behind the TOT.

Anyway, to make a long story short, DCA Imagineers do have the needed space to build the Avengers ride at DCA with the ride show building in the back of that space and the front of the Avengers ride that you can see on the HKDL artwork closer to the TOT. I remind you that the Bugs Land area on the left will be gone soon too, giving some space don't have everything too close to each other. Note that the fact they have the room available doesn't mean that they will necessary build the ride, so far and until an official announcement it just mean that if they want to build the Avengers ride, they have the space for it.


We're not done yet as there is a third poster where the Avengers plane can be seen, and it's the one for DLP WDS Marvel land. First, i remind you that on the artwork released showing WDS expansion an Avengers plane can be seen on the left, near the entrance of the current stunt show ( picture below ). Meaning that the Avengers plane probably will be there when they'll open the Marvel land but not the Avengers ride, which by the way has not been announced yet.





Now, considering the needed space for the Avengers ride building and that it must be located in the upcoming WDS Marvel land, there is not hundred locations where they can put it. Unfortunately the best and bigger location for it is where currently is the Moteurs, Action! stunt show. However, as this Avengers ride wouldn't be added to WDS Marvel land before 2025 and most probably not before ten years, chances are that they'll keep the stunt show with a Marvel re-theming until at least 2025. And then, if they want to use the space for the Avengers ride it will be always time to destroy the stunt show area to have the needed room available for the Avengers show building.

But, wait, how many square meters makes the stunt show area? Is there at least the needed 12000 square meters for the Avengers show building? Thanks to the next Google Earth satellite view below we learn that the answer is yes as the space defined by the polygon i did makes ...17297 square meters! Again, it doesn't mean they will build the Avengers ride, it just mean that they'll have the room to build it if they wish.


Well, at least we know now that in both three parks they have the needed space to build this awaited Avengers ride which will be a major E-Ticket ride, the equivalent to Marvel lands to what will be the Battle Escape ride to Star Wars lands in terms of awesomeness, though of course totally different inside.

Pictures: copyright Disney, Google Earth

Monday, July 23, 2018

Rumor: Next Super-Hero Attraction at DCA Marvel Land Could Be a Spiderman 4D Projection Show


We'll start the week - the last D&M week before a Summer break starting August 1st as announced previously - with what you have to consider as a rumor. Normally when i'm 100% sure of infos coming from sources, i don't need to say that it must be taken as a rumor, but here, and although the source is excellent, the info doesn't come directly from the horse's mouth, so i'm not 100% sure it will happen, though it will make sense as you'll see.

Okay, so, it's in the rumor category and it's about what will be the next Marvel super-hero attraction for Disney's California Adventure Marvel Land. And what i've been told is that it will be a Spider-Man attraction.

That a Spiderman attraction will come to DCA Marvel land is nothing new. Disney, i think, said it, along with an Avengers ride which most probably will be similar to the one coming in 2023 at HKDL. The fact that the next Marvel attraction at DCA will be the one with Spiderman is no surprise either, it was something not even hidden since they released the three posters for each Marvel land at DCA, HKDL and DLP WDS. If you look at the posters again you can see that for the HKDL poster the Marvel super-hero at the forefront of the concept art is Ant Man and The Wasp - and the ride will open next year at HKDL Tomorrowland....


...For DLP WDS the super-hero at the forefront is Iron Man, and as we know an Iron Man coaster will replace in 2020-21 the Rock and Roller Coaster...


...And for Disney's California Adventure the super-hero at the forefront of the concept art is ...Spiderman. So, basically it is "signed", the next Marvel attraction coming to DCA is a Spiderman attraction. So far, no big surprise and the fact that Spider-Man is in the forefront makes sense and aligns with the rumor i've been told.


Some may think that the Avengers ride will come first at DCA before a Spiderman attraction, and although it's true that the Avengers plane can also be seen on the concept-art but i won't bet on that. All the heroes at the center of the posters are the ones that will have attraction in the next 2 to 3 years, so i think the posters promote the super-heroes that will have an attraction coming soon and that it's the message hidden behind the posters.

Now, back to California Adventure and the Spiderman attraction. If you want to create a new Spiderman ride, here is the problem: you need to beat or at least to be as good as the acclaimed Spiderman ride at Islands of Adventure, and you'll agree that this is one hell of a ride difficult to beat. Or you can do a totally different kind of ride, like a new kind of roller coaster. And it happens that a recently approved Disney patent was showing a kind of "pendulum" roller coaster which would do the job pretty well for a Spiderman coaster.



You can read more about it HERE  but one goal in designing the ride system was to deliver an experience similar to what it would feel like to be with Spider-Man or a similar character swinging on webs between buildings as you move down the streets of a city..



So a Spiderman coaster could be it ...but it's not what i've been told. I was told that the Spiderman attraction will be a 4D projection show coming of course in the former It's Tough to be a Bug theatre building that will be expanded for the need of the show. And to expect something like the amazing Kung Fu Panda show which recently opened at Universal Studios Hollywood.

My source added "I do not think that they will place a ride there. It makes the most sense in reality to use the theatre like that. Backstage ( behind ) they have the Carthay Circle and also the Animation Academy building. I don't think they have time to open up that type of ride. They can use the It's Tough to be a Bug theatre with the screen, design a spectacular projection show, put some new seats in here and call it a day. And save plenty of money. I would love a cool new ride but the big E-ticket Avengers ride is phase 2 of the Marvel land and it will go behind the Guardians of Galaxy tower."

So, what do you think? For me it's 50-50. Sure, WDI Imagineers may have in plans a new kind of ride that we don't think about but, again, any Spiderman ride will be judge in comparison to the one at Islands of Adventure, which can be beat but probably at a high cost that Disney might want to save for the future Avengers ride. Again, take this one with a pinch of salt and i suppose we'll know more about it anytime soon, probably at the next D23 Expo the latest.

Pictures: copyright Disney

 
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