Which faction did you side with?

[marharth]

Because the secruitrons are entirely controlled by house?

That make sense, but why there's no line,no plans or any mission to takeover securitrons after the courier has arealdy reach and kill House?

They're really incapable to do that?

Seems to me that the technology is far too advanced for the NCR and probably even the brotherhood.

[MissRedZelda]

What about the Followers of the Apocolypse? Anyone else besides me try to support them?

 

Although sadly, it seems that in every ending, they get screwed over. Except for if you support the Legion. He apparently lets them leave the Mojave alive for California because they taught him as a boy.

Edited July 27, 2011 by MissRedZelda

[ita]

The simple fact is that the warring with the legion and NCR makes it extremely hard for Mr. House to do much.

 

Doesn't change the fact that House and his cronies in the Three Families easily could have diverted some people and resources to do something about Freeside during their renovation of the Strip, the NCR advance force wasn't even in the Vegas area when he had his Securitrons exit the Lucky 38 and assume control.

[marharth]

The simple fact is that the warring with the legion and NCR makes it extremely hard for Mr. House to do much.

 

Doesn't change the fact that House and his cronies in the Three Families easily could have diverted some people and resources to do something about Freeside during their renovation of the Strip, the NCR advance force wasn't even in the Vegas area when he had his Securitrons exit the Lucky 38 and assume control.

When his securitrons first exited no one left the vaults yet -.-

 

The kings were the first people on freeside, and were previously tribals before Mr. House got them to help out in freeside.

 

To be technical, Mr. House DID help freeside by giving it order. Without the kings freeside would be even worse.

[ita]

I'm referring to when House opened up the Lucky 38 in 2274, vaults all over the country had been open for almost 200 years. -.-

 

House did not put the Kings in place to rule over Freeside, the King formed the gang by himself and recruited members from the poor bastards House left to rot in Freeside. Remember that the only tribals House invited into the Strip were the tribes that became the Three Families.

 

To understand Freeside, you have to look back a few years. Originally, we were all just tribes making a living in this area. That all changed when Mr. House came around. He made an offer to the three biggest tribes that were willing to listen to him.

 

Today, everyone calls those tribes the Three Families, and they live in luxury and run their own casinos in the Strip. The rest of us were left to fight over the crumbs, living in the shadow of those more fortunate. Things got pretty nasty for a while.

 

But we wanted more. A place of our own. A place where no one could tell us what to do. And we didn't want to go elsewhere to find it. So we took control of this place, and made it our own. And that's really all Freeside is, the best of a bad situation.

Edited July 28, 2011 by GenocideLolita

[marharth]

I'm referring to when House opened up the Lucky 38 in 2274, vaults all over the country had been open for almost 200 years. -.-

 

House did not put the Kings in place to rule over Freeside, the King formed the gang by himself and recruited members from the poor bastards House left to rot in Freeside. Remember that the only tribals House invited into the Strip were the tribes that became the Three Families.

 

To understand Freeside, you have to look back a few years. Originally, we were all just tribes making a living in this area. That all changed when Mr. House came around. He made an offer to the three biggest tribes that were willing to listen to him.

 

Today, everyone calls those tribes the Three Families, and they live in luxury and run their own casinos in the Strip. The rest of us were left to fight over the crumbs, living in the shadow of those more fortunate. Things got pretty nasty for a while.

 

But we wanted more. A place of our own. A place where no one could tell us what to do. And we didn't want to go elsewhere to find it. So we took control of this place, and made it our own. And that's really all Freeside is, the best of a bad situation.

 

They were tribals, Mr. House let them rule right next door without problem.

 

If a bunch of tribals decided to set up a base right next to camp mcarren, you think they would be fine with it?

[jukehero461]

Lotta good thoughts here, by the way.

 

Alright, to start with, I went with the NCR. The are by far the most... for want of a better word, "civilized." I think that with the right leadership, they would do great. However, from what I heard in-game, they have too many problems with corruption and bureaucracy. Still, I liked most of the guys in the NCR, from Boone to the folks at McCarran, to the refugees at Bitter Springs.

 

Second time, went with House. He is... odd to describe. He knows what he's doing, and is ridiculously intelligent (as he loves to point out), but he still doesn't take care of his domain. Freeside is a shambles, the roads around Vegas are crawling with all kinds of crap, and he does nothing. He's still not necessarily BAD though.

 

Finally, went with independent. I figure, my character could get it right. Pity it didn't make too much of a difference. Disappointing really...

 

The Legion can go s*** in a hole (pardon the language). They are juvenile pricks with no respect for others, no major organization, and no outstanding goals other than conquest! GAH!

[ita]

They were tribals, Mr. House let them rule right next door without problem.

 

If a bunch of tribals decided to set up a base right next to camp mcarren, you think they would be fine with it?

 

House didn't "let them rule" anything, he essentially left a bunch of people to "fight over the crumbs",as the King put it. Proving yet again that House doesn't give a crap about Freeside.

 

If the Courier can complete the quest G.I. Blues and have the Kings and the NCR agree to a truce, the NCR begin a full-scale relief effort for the people in Freeside so they're obviously fine with helping tribals out.

[marharth]

They were tribals, Mr. House let them rule right next door without problem.

 

If a bunch of tribals decided to set up a base right next to camp mcarren, you think they would be fine with it?

 

House didn't "let them rule" anything, he essentially left a bunch of people to "fight over the crumbs",as the King put it. Proving yet again that House doesn't give a crap about Freeside.

 

If the Courier can complete the quest G.I. Blues and have the Kings and the NCR agree to a truce, the NCR begin a full-scale relief effort for the people in Freeside so they're obviously fine with helping tribals out.

Your missing the point, the kings are in no way tribals anymore.

 

When they set up in freeside they were tribals. If the fiends decided to change and try to set up a base by camp mccaren, there is no way the NCR would not try to push them out.

 

At least Mr. House let them have a place to stay.

[ita]

Whatever, man.

You ignore the main point of my post to instead focus on things such as whether the Kings are tribals or not and speculating about what the Fiends would do if they suddenly would decide to sober up and set up a camp near McCarran, while I've constantly put forth evidence that House completely ignores the situation of the people in Freeside.

 

I think I'm done here.