Elspeth profits from Vampire nerf. Vlad used to solo everything empire. I have seen several different factions become dominant since last update. 1 consistant is the hellpit rats eating Kislev with Azag support

malakai doesn't do anything, tamurkhan and elspeth conquer lots of territory

Originally posted by Fragoos:

Elspeth profits from Vampire nerf. Vlad used to solo everything empire. I have seen several different factions become dominant since last update. 1 consistant is the hellpit rats eating Kislev with Azag support

aah didnt know that there were vamp nerfs but then that makes at least some sense but nurgle is stampeding through everything aswell for me annoying but well is what it is I guess

Originally posted by ik vind geschiedenis leuk:

malakai doesn't do anything, tamurkhan and elspeth conquer lots of territory

yee thats my point and also the reason why I left out malakai xD

Originally posted by ik vind geschiedenis leuk:

malakai doesn't do anything, tamurkhan and elspeth conquer lots of territory

I have yet to see Tamerkhan not die to Kholek before turn 10-15

Malakai dies before turn 20 in my campaigns in general.
Tamerkhan has dominated once, hasn't survived past turn 30 since.
Elspeth struggles but manages to hang in there well into turn 100. But by the skin of her teeth.

The only 1 that always manages to be strong in my campaigns is N'kari who always seems to dominate Ulthuan.

Originally posted by Miracoli:

is it just a coincidence or does someone else also encounter the "problem" that the new factions are hardcore dominating every other ai faction?
maggot lord and espeth are steamrolling through every other ai in all my campaigns its to the point that its not fun since there is no variation in the late game its ALWAYS those two
does anyone have a similar "problem"?

this "no variation problem" exist since warhammer 1 .... so this is not new.
i allways dislike that the AI gets very small very fast in every match. I think they can´t do it better. Same with the AI in general. Behind the scene the game work too much scripted so the freedom the game tries to show not really exist....

but all in all i go with your statement.

happens when the dlc lords are op as ♥♥♥♥ and CA nerfs most other dangerous lords

New DLC lords are always a bit OP to induce sales of the DLC.

In a patch or two they will quitely nerf them and the cycle continues.

Seen Vlad eliminating Elspeth, and the reverse too
Malakai either fare meh or gets wiped out, but Tamurkhan is very strong indeed
Epidemius is weak af

Originally posted by Miracoli:

is it just a coincidence or does someone else also encounter the "problem" that the new factions are hardcore dominating every other ai faction?
maggot lord and espeth are steamrolling through every other ai in all my campaigns its to the point that its not fun since there is no variation in the late game its ALWAYS those two
does anyone have a similar "problem"?

Are you always playing the same faction?

I think the most consistent performers from my observations are Ungrim, Belegar and Morathi.

It's the little known random seed that effects their potential and play style.

I've seen Elspeth dominate and be dominated by the VC. The Maggot Lord would always wipe out Kolek but since the patch all the Chaos factions have been banding together in my recent plays, but the ML is still a pain, along with the fat slug, wiped out three mid game imperial armies on his own. The Chaos Dwarfs are probably the most pay to win faction put in the game though, the first time i came up against blunderbusses and didn't known what they did, i blinked and my lvl 50 lord was deleted. Same with the Quake mortars....madness.

Most veteran players have been asking for a long time for an option to use the random seed, mostly to boost certain factions that will undoubtedly oppose you but it's just another thing on the LONG LONG list of things players would like CA to do.

Originally posted by I Throw Spears.:

New DLC lords are always a bit OP to induce sales of the DLC.

In a patch or two they will quitely nerf them and the cycle continues.

And that is when you pick up the un-nerf mods from the Workshop to keep the OG fun going.