Hi,
Fully agree with the idea.
Taking into account the Switch-civilization mechanic, it feels natural to add Kyivska Rus.
Following this mechanics, it is quite easy to find historical connections to different civilizations that can be used as civ chain/transition (like Byzantine Empire, Austro-Hungarian Empire, Polish–Lithuanian union, Russia, Ukraine etc)

Igor Sykorsky was born in Kiev from a russian family, and he identified as Russian, not Ukrainian. "Igor Sikorsky was an Orthodox Christian.[16] When questioned regarding his roots, he would answer: "My family is of Russian origin. My grandfather and other ancestors from the time of Peter the Great were Russian Orthodox priests."

Bohdan Khmelnytsky didn't fought against the Russian empire, on the contrary he signed the Treaty of Pereieslav (1654) that placed the Cossack Hetmanate as a vassal of Russia

Kiev Rus not started in Kiev like many people like think... Russia started 862 when Rurik arrived and unite russian tribes.. Capital was in Novgorod, prince Oleg The Wise just move capital to Kiev soon after and basically that started bigger Kievan Rus..

No, he wasn’t. That’s part of communist propaganda. He fled to the USA to escape it, and he was Ukrainian. Please don’t confuse people with your lack of knowledge.

Originally posted by koba134:

Igor Sykorsky was born in Kiev from a russian family, and he identified as Russian, not Ukrainian. "Igor Sikorsky was an Orthodox Christian.[16] When questioned regarding his roots, he would answer: "My family is of Russian origin. My grandfather and other ancestors from the time of Peter the Great were Russian Orthodox priests."

Originally posted by Патрончик:

No, he wasn’t. That’s part of communist propaganda. He fled to the USA to escape it, and he was Ukrainian. Please don’t confuse people with your lack of knowledge.

Originally posted by koba134:

Igor Sykorsky was born in Kiev from a russian family, and he identified as Russian, not Ukrainian. "Igor Sikorsky was an Orthodox Christian.[16] When questioned regarding his roots, he would answer: "My family is of Russian origin. My grandfather and other ancestors from the time of Peter the Great were Russian Orthodox priests."

"Igor Ivanovich Sikorsky was a Russian–American aviation pioneer in both helicopters and fixed-wing aircraft." - official wikipedia statement. Why should I believe you more than wikipedia?

Reasonable representation of Kyiv Rus can be only through pre-mongol rulers, and it's not that much - Ruyric, Oleg, Igor, Olga, Yaroslav, Vladimir; that's more or less it. Probably makes sense to go with Yaroslav or Vladimir mostly for flavour, as Oleg, Olga and Igor were still bearing a lot of direct scandinavian influence in their cultural makeup.

Novgorod and Russia is in so no point

It will be great if we can see it in a game

Already a thing sort of. Kievan Rus was Varangian, and Harald Hardrada has a Varangian variant in Civ 6. Kievan Rus was essentially an old norse viking empire and it has probably seemed redundant to have multiple civilizations with basically the same culture. In Civ 4 it was just the "Viking" civilization, in 5 it was Danish, and in 6 it was Norwegians. It's certain there will be another viking civ in 7, we'll see which one they use. Though honestly I don't think very many people have heard of Kievan Rus and so it's probably not likely.

Daniel of Galicia (Danylo Halytsky) never ruled Kievan Rus as far as I can tell, he also didn't stop any Mongol invasion. He tried to help defend Kiev in a siege once and failed, then his principality, Galicia, was destroyed by them, and the Mongols carried on into Poland and Hungary and only stopped there because the Khan died (from over drinking). Daniel then served the Mongols basically until his death, with one brief failed rebellion attempt, and the Mongols continued to hold those territories and demand tribute from them for a couple more centuries.

Originally posted by Yuriqa:

Kiev Rus not started in Kiev like many people like think... Russia started 862 when Rurik arrived and unite russian tribes.. Capital was in Novgorod, prince Oleg The Wise just move capital to Kiev soon after and basically that started bigger Kievan Rus..

Kyivska Rus (Русь) was a powerful political entity of Eastern Slavic tribes with Kyiv as its capital, a significant center even before Oleg's arrival. While Rurik ruled in Novgorod, it doesn't mean Rus started there, moreover it's also worth exploring the history of who founded Novgorod and when, and analyzing archaeological studies on this topic - there are many surprises and contradictions awaiting you.
Also important to note that both Rurik and Oleg are known to us primarily from a single source, which raises questions about their actual existence.
For accurate conclusions, it's important to refer to documented sources and the work of historians and archaeologists, rather than relying on unverified stories or myths.

Therefore, of course, I support the addition to the game of Kyivska Rus and its leaders, preferably historically reliable ones, such as Volodymyr the Great, Yaroslav the Wise or Svyatoslav the Brave, and of course Ukraine in modern times. Thank you

Originally posted by Astasia:

Already a thing sort of. Kievan Rus was Varangian, and Harald Hardrada has a Varangian variant in Civ 6. Kievan Rus was essentially an old norse viking empire and it has probably seemed redundant to have multiple civilizations with basically the same culture. In Civ 4 it was just the "Viking" civilization, in 5 it was Danish, and in 6 it was Norwegians. It's certain there will be another viking civ in 7, we'll see which one they use. Though honestly I don't think very many people have heard of Kievan Rus and so it's probably not likely.

Daniel of Galicia (Danylo Halytsky) never ruled Kievan Rus as far as I can tell, he also didn't stop any Mongol invasion. He tried to help defend Kiev in a siege once and failed, then his principality, Galicia, was destroyed by them, and the Mongols carried on into Poland and Hungary and only stopped there because the Khan died (from over drinking). Daniel then served the Mongols basically until his death, with one brief failed rebellion attempt, and the Mongols continued to hold those territories and demand tribute from them for a couple more centuries.

Regarding the Varangians. Kyivska Rus was a complex state formation of Slavs and other local ethnic groups. Norman's theory of Rus is today highly questioned and has very few proponents for several reasons:

1) Foundation of Rus by the Varangians: The legend of the Varangians being invited to rule could be more of a myth than a proven fact. It looks like an attempt to legitimize the rule of the so-called Rurikid dynasty, which was created centuries after the events described in the legend.

2) Political Influence: While the Varangians may have been involved in the consolidation of power among the Slavs, they did not dominate the political life of Rus.

3) Military Influence: The presence of Varangian warriors is archaeologically confirmed, but their influence on the military organization of Rus was limited and gradually integrated into the Slavic context.

4) Culture: Scandinavian culture was mixed with local traditions but did not dominate. This should be seen as part of the broader process of cultural exchange.

5) Economy: The Varangians participated in trade, but Rus was an important trade center even before their arrival.

Well, last but not least this part. Modern research shows that the role of the Varangians is often exaggerated, and the main development processes of Rus occurred among the Slavs independently.

Regarding King Danylo, it is true that Danylo Halytsky (Daniel of Galicia) did not rule Kyivska Rus, but he was a Rus king who received a crown from the Pope and attempted to organize resistance against the Mongol threat. The Mongol invasions continued but were halted due to internal problems within the Mongol Empire, not just the death of the Khan.

This further underscores that Kyivska Rus was a significant medieval state with a unique culture and other attributes of a Great civilization, deserving attention and inclusion in such a wonderful game as Civilization, which I have been personally playing since Civilization III and wish to continue playing, especially with the Kyivska Rus as an integral part of the history of Ukraine

I support it, it would be very cool to see Ukraine in your game! Please Firaxis, add our ancestors Kievan Rus, or add us Ukraine :)

Why? Are you really gonna buy it for this greedy AF price? Go look at it again and think. Just ignore this game and forget about it.

id rather civ7 to stick to historical relevance vs. getting political, like the franchise has done before