Gray Zone Warfare

Gray Zone Warfare

Save PvP or the game will never be popular
PvP is what keeps a game fresh. PvE can never do that for this game alone. Without a focus on the PvP this game will not recover. All the comments below that don't understand this are the 600 players this game still has left playing on PvE.



This game will never have more than 10k players average if the PvP situation is not focused on. I would bet anything that more people are playing PvE in this game right now. As long as this is the case it will never hold a significant player count.

1. Fix landing zone camping (have the landing zone area be PvE or have the chopper shoot at enemies near by the LZ or have the Pilot tell you 2 enemies are NW or the LZ.)

2. You cannot allow cross progression from PvE to PvP must be separate modes

3. Find a way to make enemy players stand out more while sitting in a bush (Maybe they get a bright blue Shirt that only shows to enemies so you can still look good choosing your shirts to your teammates)

4. The best AP ammos should not be bought in shop but found in raid in small amounts (855A1, ect.)

5. Add a little bit of zoom like 1.5x to holo and reflex sights (again for visibility of enemy players)

6. Of course choppers need to be faster not only in the speed of the chopper itself but it need to come to pick you up from a place on the map that it closer to your current location.(when the chopper drops you off it leaves off map close to your location so it should be able to come in when picking you up from the same place it leaves from when dropping you off)


Implement these changes to save PvP and this game. Other changes need to be made also but these are nonnegotiable.
Last edited by OneAboveSecond; 12 Sep @ 6:59am
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Zuh 2 Sep @ 8:11am 
I think you are looking for different game.

GZW supposed to be semi-realistic PvEvP game with focus on PvE.

Most of your suggestions would change the character of the game.
What a stupid comment. PvE and Coop games are popular and keep their player base as well. Just look at Deep Rock Galactic or Left 4 Dead 2.
Gunther Toody 2 Sep @ 4:35pm 
Make the whole thing PVE
neo_bpm 4 Sep @ 7:54am 
Originally posted by OneAboveSecond:
This game will never have more than 10k players average if the PvP situation is not focused on. I would bet anything that more people are playing PvE in this game right now. As long as this is the case it will never hold a significant player count.

1. Fix landing zone camping (have the landing zone area be PvE or have the chopper shoot at enemies near by the LZ or have the Pilot tell you 2 enemies are NW or the LZ.)

2. You cannot allow cross progression from PvE to PvP must be separate modes

3. Find a way to make enemy players stand out more while sitting in a bush (Maybe they get a bright blue Shirt that only shows to enemies so you can still look good choosing your shirts to your teammates)

4. The best AP ammos should not be bought in shop but found in raid in small amounts (855A1, ect.)

5. Add a little bit of zoom like 1.5x to holo and reflex sights (again for visibility of enemy players)

6. Of course choppers need to be faster not only in the speed of the chopper itself but it need to come to pick you up from a place on the map that it closer to your current location.(when the chopper drops you off it leaves off map close to your location so it should be able to come in when picking you up from the same place it leaves from when dropping you off)


Implement these changes to save PvP and this game. Other changes need to be made also but these are nonnegotiable.

+1

But now, is too late for this game.
Madlax 4 Sep @ 3:33pm 
then why is PVE Tarkov more popular than pvp? i smell some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
Dodger 4 Sep @ 4:33pm 
This post is utter nonsense in all due respect, with a massive lack of forward thinking to boot,....in 5 years PvP games will almost be obsolete due to the black Market that has successfully made hundreds of thousands of dollars in a business that is destroying the fabric of gaming selling cheats to anyone who is willing to buy them..............Enter 21st century "PvE"..........with future advanced A.I scripts that create the ability of in game A.I Behavior to grow exponentially and much more realistic in the next few years should and will not be underestimated, not only will it be incredible to develop these tools but it will for MANY bring a successful end to an incredibly frustrating period in time when In game A.I was about as dumb as a box of rocks, there is nothing wrong with this game at all.......we see what it is the good and the bad and like the process demands....We gradually make a better product,.......But all i hear is complaints as things are actually getting better, after 8 years we are seeing the fruits of BattleState Labor in the offerings of other companies, does the layout seem familiar? the weapon models...Movement? yep a lot has been taken from Tarkov but these developers are starting WHERE BSG left off,...EFT wasn't even this together when i started playing in 2016. So in summation this game will grow...I love it! great take on a theme that is popular at the moment, but make no mistake the future of games IS NOT "PvE"....But rather "Behavioral Advanced A.I boosted PvE"..........
Last edited by Dodger; 4 Sep @ 4:34pm
As stated multiple times by the developers, the primary focus of the game is PvE. However, they are actively working to find the right balance and are considering ways to enhance the experience for players who engage in PvP, ensuring they can enjoy the game even more in the future.
Originally posted by OneAboveSecond:
3. Find a way to make enemy players stand out more while sitting in a bush (Maybe they get a bright blue Shirt that only shows to enemies so you can still look good choosing your shirts to your teammates)
LoL...why don't you just play PvE mode?
First of all: REMOVE cheater kids or call it CVC (cheater vs. cheater). That`s it.
my personal experience:

PVP=toxic sweaty no lifers who treat you like crap and laugh about it when they kill you with (usually) better gear from playing way to damn much. cheaters really effect you here.

PVE=Fun times and usually people helping each other out. usually pretty laid back. though you do get people who mess with you from time to time. cheaters can effect you, but its not as bad as losing it in pvp as pve does make you go against people with waaaay to much time on their hands.

Keep in mind flavor varies per game/community. But usually pve is less toxic and easier to get into and overall fun. i PERSONALLY think most pvper's hate the world and want to watch it burn so they try and make everyone else's life miserable.
Originally posted by Madlax:
then why is PVE Tarkov more popular than pvp? i smell some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
You're insane, definitely not more popular than pvp on tarkov. Pve is for soft people who arent good enough to advance in the storyline through pvp or for people who work too much and dont have time to grind a pvp storyline because they die all the time. When you kill an Ai in a video game the satisfaction & rewarding feeling isnt there. killing a real player gives you that feeling.
Join the Army if you really want that feeling!
Madlax 5 Sep @ 10:56pm 
Originally posted by YokingChimp:
You're insane, definitely not more popular than pvp on tarkov. Pve is for soft people who arent good enough to advance in the storyline through pvp or for people who work too much and dont have time to grind a pvp storyline because they die all the time. When you kill an Ai in a video game the satisfaction & rewarding feeling isnt there. killing a real player gives you that feeling.
then you are probably murderous psychopath because for me it makes no diference if i kill AI or player i dont feel any satisfaction from that, i feel satisfaction from good loot, thats all.
and if you think pvp is more popular then go see some polls many streamers made, around 60% of ppl are playing pve
Last edited by Madlax; 5 Sep @ 10:56pm
jerrak 6 Sep @ 8:19am 
there are 800 players in this game right now. LOL I don't think they're coming back from this.
s1vert 6 Sep @ 9:55am 
Originally posted by Zuh:
I think you are looking for different game.

GZW supposed to be semi-realistic PvEvP game with focus on PvE.

Most of your suggestions would change the character of the game.
Dude ... why is their factions even then? its obviously PvP based, heavy pvp based.
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