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Director at The BML Group. Your Nationwide Security & Facilities Management Provider.

You’d be shocked by how many properties have non-compliant wall cavities and penetrations! It really isn't that complicated to fix—if you know what you're doing. Get it sorted for your own compliance, but more importantly, for the safety of your residents. The consequences of ignoring these issues are simply too grave to ignore. For your Nationwide Security & Facilities Management Call 02071014800 enquiries@bmlgroup.co.uk https://lnkd.in/enWd_XFc #SafetyFirst #ComplianceMatters #BuildingMaintenance #ResidentSafety #BMLGroup #PropertyManagement

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Steven Ng

MIFSM MCIOB DipFD FSIDip SFIDip | Fire Safety Consultant & Managing Director

4mo

Some more context would be helpful. Are you saying the fire-stopping in your image is non-compliant? Steel stud partition? 60-minutes EI? It looks like a concrete slab; no deflection has been built into the partition. Is the service support missing within proximity to the fire stop? I cannot see any in the image provided. Most testing with the likes of Quelfire is up to 300mm. That’s a reasonable dimension to work with unless the manufacturer can be identified to use their specific tested requirements.

Chloe Fitton

Senior Fire Consultant, AIFSM, AIFireE, FDDip, Tier 2 TFRAR

4mo

Please could you provide more information? If its non compliant, why ?

Some relevant points on here , some not so relevant. There is no seal to the head of wall, but again we don't know what is on the other side? Generally speaking , we ask our operatives NOT to "paint" the fixings so you can identify the correct spacings for the patress. Also there is nothing saying you cannot use HPE around armoured cables, especially when grouped with other cables , forming a cable bunch

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Richard Gleeson

Owner at Titan Fire Services Ltd.

4mo

Building is already lost before that becomes an issue.

Elliot Nunnen

Passive Fire Protection | Fire Curtains & Firefly Installation | Intumescent Spraying | Ablative Batt & Mastic | Various Styles Of Boarding - Gypsum Glassroc- Promat TD Board - Vermiculux - Supalux | Injectaclad

4mo

Dont want graphite on a armoured cable. Nothing wrong with that stop tho

Elliot Nunnen

Passive Fire Protection | Fire Curtains & Firefly Installation | Intumescent Spraying | Ablative Batt & Mastic | Various Styles Of Boarding - Gypsum Glassroc- Promat TD Board - Vermiculux - Supalux | Injectaclad

4mo

Do u know who installed it? Swear down its something i have done 4 years ago. Fire stoppers diary's lol

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Barry, You criticised this picture, but didn’t mention the reasoning. For all concerned and those of us who can’t see anything immediately wrong, please do explain. Thanks in advance.

Noel Flood

Building surveyor and Structural Engineer

4mo

doesnt look bad to me I have seen a lot worse

Jakub Stachowiak

Passive Fire Protection Project Manager/Estimator at Optima Interiors Ltd.

4mo

So is that fire stop correct or not Barry? Whats the name of the product manufacturer and fire rating of the wall?

Tzali stern (Capital Cladding)

Specialist in Cladding for all Commercial & Residential Building | Providing Quality Workmanship | On Programme - within Budget

4mo

Barry Lobenstein The “know what your doing”is extremely complicated and not very common 😉

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