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Hydrogen is muscling in on the EV in the Extreme E off road electric racing series. The Pioneer 25 hydrogen fuel cell-powered race car is now the world’s first hydrogen off-road racing championship after a win in England in June. Extreme E founder Alejandro Agag believes the significance of transitioning to hydrogen must be understood within the larger context of the energy transition.  I agree with him that passenger cars are not a target market, but buses and high use trucks are the sweet spot for hydrogen in transportation. #ANDnotOR https://lnkd.in/e5SChcGx

Extreme E Becomes Extreme H, Launching Hydrogen-Powered Motorsports

Extreme E Becomes Extreme H, Launching Hydrogen-Powered Motorsports

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Geoff Bell

Saxonking Engineering Research

3mo

A broad range of racing formats will need to be compared and their results scrutinised for transferability to road applications for example Let's compare all technologies and energy formats against each other. That's the way to develop technologies and determine suitability, unless you feel that your favourite will perform badly then block it at all costs

Paul Ward

Business Development | Renewable Energy Leader | Clean Energy | Wave and Tidal Energy | Supporting Inventors and Inovators | Material Recapture

3mo

A very simple solution for this would be to make the batteries swappable which could be done at the pit stop. Paul Martin want to wade in?

Karl Slama

Director Systems Engineering

3mo

How do you consolidate your belief with looking at the hard numbers: 1) green hydrogen has an efficiency problem. At the output of the eMotor we are down to 15% efficiency compared to 92% for a battery electric propulsion. 2) green hydrogen was 1% of overall production 5 years ago and is 1% of overall production present day. No progress there. 3) trucks up to class 8 and buses with battery electric propulsion are at the moment performing at 1.7 kWh/mile. This is so much better than both Hydrogen fuel cell and hydrogen ice. See 1) 4) hydrogen for aviation is non-starter due to low gravimetric density. Tanks need to be 4 times as large and cannot be accommodated in the wings anymore, hence cutting into payload. 5) heavy marine is suffering from boil off at 2%-5% per day from liquid hydrogen.

Geoff Bell

Saxonking Engineering Research

3mo

I note Chris that we are still seeing specific point efficiency analysis being used to establish the viability of hydrogen use and ignoring the impacts of the electricity only pathway You can't do that. When you look at the whole system for the implications of the electricity only pathway the add-ons and compromises you have to make in doing that are considerable In addition hydrogen production using electrolysis for example has two further useful outputs; heat and oxygen. Both have value and in a correctly set up system improves both efficiency and reduces costs The Circular Economy recognises this and those designing systems nowadays should be using that approach together with other interested parties to use all outputs of any processes or systems. The old days of simply ignoring byproducts should be dead and buried now I visited a CHP/Waste disposal facility in Edmonton North London in the early 1970's with multiple functions. Waste disposal, electricity generation and heat for a community heating scheme. In addition the metals were salvaged and the ash used for landscaping Now of course the processes are refined still further to include materials recycling pre-combustion, methane production of wet organic waste.

Matt Pumfrey

Principal at MWP Associates & Co-Founder at Eco Connect Group

3mo

ExtremeH - H is for Hope as they battle physics and finance.....

Have you invested any of your pension funds in hydrogen companies?

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Duncan Yellen

Hydrogen development

3mo

Any sort of "endurance motor racing" - ie more than 20 minutes or so just doesnt suit BEV - and of course the fuel cost is irrelevant if you are talking about say Formula 1 Le Mans 24 hours with MW BEV charging? - Maybe if there is a power station close by!

Neil Nera

Quality Engineer, Product Consultant and independent Contractor

3mo

Agag is a visionary. He understands perfectly the advantages of hydrogen and its current limitation in transportation applications. Extreme H will be a perfect medium to show how hydrogen can be a more reliable and versatile power source for transport applications especially for extreme road and climate conditions.

Anthony May

Product Electronics Design Engineer | Hardware | System Architecture | Circuit & PCB Design | IoT | Embedded Systems | Altium Designer

3mo

só. full. of. 💩.

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