CEO/Founder @ The Patriot Group, Inc. I Executive Recruiter I Headhunter I Agency Owner I 30+ Years in Aerospace & Defense
103 applicants and only two qualify. Here is some advice when applying for jobs, especially in Aerospace & Defense. Companies do not count your internship as real world work experience. It does give you a leg up when we are hiring new grads but for the most part, not work experience. School work and projects related or not, is also not work experience. Again, it does set you apart if it is relevant but not work experience. Car manufacturing experience is not the same as aerospace manufacturing experience. Companies hiring for experienced aerospace/aircraft or airframe engineers would rarely consider auto industry experience as relevant. Lastly, for Aerospace/Defense roles in most cases you must be a US Citizen. Please be truthful about this. #patriotmethod #recruiting #hiring #applying #aerospacejobs (Tap that bell 🔔 to follow me David Dickey, comments are welcomed.
David Dickey
3mo
I know a lot of noise around how it is someone else's fault when there is a high percentage of people that apply for jobs are not qualified, like it is the job description's fault. More often than not it is the candidate that isn't reading the job description.
Kristen Fife
3mo
Job descriptions aren't just written for the fun of it. I was hiring Fedramp roles in my last contract. I had "Must be a US citizen" in the title and in the job description. I still got OPT applicants who lied on the knockout questions (In this case "Do you now, OR WILL YOU EVER, need sponsorship to work in the US" and "Are you a US citizen?") My results were about the same in terms of BQ's.
Zachary Donnelly
3mo
How would you classify those of us who have part-time roles within the defense sector while we are in university? Is this considered work experience, in your opinion?
Peter M.
3mo
To an extent I get what you’re saying. I also know that their isn’t a linear relationship between skill and full time work. I have met plenty of engineers with 15 years of experience who can barely get through a week. Now if you’re genuinely looking for the guy/gal with 15 years experience who has tracked with skill and responsibilities you better have great pay or being doing very cool work. Usually when people hard cap time in field it’s a reflection on their own ignorance. You have a brilliant engineer 8 years Industry. You have a mediocre engineer 15 years industry. Valuing time is stupid.
Joe Johnson
3mo
Oddly, I saw a post earlier that told companies that if a candidate meets 70-75% of the requirements HIRE THEM (it was in caps I believe). That just doesn't take into account the candidates that meet all the requirements. Well said David.
Robert Johnson
3mo
Good tips. Since Elon Musk put a car into space, technically automobiles could fall into aerospace.
Stacie Pudliner
3mo
To add to this, if a posting says “degree required” and you haven’t graduated yet you will automatically get disqualified
Austin C.
3mo
To add to this, The US citizenship requirements are usually because the position might require a security clearance down the line. These clearances are costly so meeting requirements is crucial to being considered for most openings..
Amy Miller
3mo
*cries in space recruiter* 😂 I feel you David!!
CEO/Founder @ The Patriot Group, Inc. I Executive Recruiter I Headhunter I Agency Owner I 30+ Years in Aerospace & Defense
3moI spoke with a candidate with about 2-3 years of experience and he was counting internships and school as experience. Unfortunately, hiring managers will not see it that way.