Raiseway’s Post

Teams doesn’t have users, it has hostages!

The biggest problem with Teams (as with Skype too), is the horrible user experience, terribly designed and un-intuitive UI - and worst of all, it is an application - just like skype and slack, based on web tech. The latter contributing negatively to the lack of performance and security. What they should have done, since they're already reusing parts of Skype in Teams, is simply building teams as a true native compiled application instead of all all this web tech nonsense. We're doing ourselves as professionals a huge disservice by accepting such poor software which allows to kill our productivity. It is time to push back on poor solutions and demand properly engineered software in a solid development tool and programming language. Do any of you remember Skype 7.x? - It just *WORKED*. And you know why? - The majority of the application was written in Delphi. Today, Modern Delphi delivers a huge advantage for those who uses its rich infrastructure when developing applications of any kind. Maybe it's time for you to do too?

Because it comes with Microsoft Office, but if you ask the team, nobody likes Microsoft Team. Companies should get more feedback from their teams, before adopting new tools

You do realize Teams is practically shoved/pushed/advertised loudly being a Microsoft Product? They where sue'd for forced defaulting/integration. (and lost!) So with that in mind - I'd say your stats are just a little bias'd. I suggest you readjust your numbers as such. EDIT: I also just realized you may be recording "installs" - just because its installed - doesn't mean its in use. <see previous statements about forced integrations>

As someone who has administration experience with both, Slack is garbage. It severely lacks B2B functionality as an example and gets outrageously experience when compared to Teams. Also, teams integrates much better with Microsoft systems. Like it or not, if you are a Microsoft environment, you are doing yourself a disservice using Slack, or any other chat platforms for that matter.

You must also mention the massive incentive: we were onboarded for our new product by the Microsoft ISV Success team, and the support for our new Microsoft Teams startup is substantial. This includes Azure credits, over $75,000 in cash for your first $100,000 of sales, and many other benefits. We have published on many marketplaces over the years, and nothing comes close to the current opportunities from Teams! Many enterprise clients are now allowed to use any SaaS services. If you combine your Teams Add-In with an in-tenant offer, there is even more support to accelerate your growth. Microsoft is investing heavily in this initiative.

It's really about licensing. Most academia and companies with licensing to Microsoft suites are entitled to Teams, so from the education foot print alone, there are many Teams users. If an organization is going to leverage things like One Note and Sharepoint, Teams makes sense. However, the messaging innovation is more on the side of Slack; they were the innovator in that space. So really, it's about license bundling. If organizations have entitlements to use Teams in the org, it makes sense to go ahead and leverage it. However, in most of the organizations I've worked, the preference was Slack. Each have their pros and cons, So I'm not sure the point discussing scalability and such, but it really depends on organization preference vs. value.

I would still go for slack over teams anyday. Switching to teams has been a let down for me personally, the experience is just downright terrible.

This has nothing to do with distribution, it's about anti-competitive exploitation.