Erik Lavigne’s Post

Assuming they had a lawful reason to be inside the residence, their response was appropriate as long as they identified a crime she committed to make an arrest. That said, I have no concerns about taking her to the ground and cuffing her up. Force seems reasonable under the circumstances. She appeared to be under the influence, was assaultive in nature and had access to weapons such as knives in the kitchen. That's what my report would look like.

Don’t follow directions and possibly endanger officers, that’s what happened.

After over 25 years of police work I have learned that it’s not the officers that need more training to deal with people that refuse to listen. The public needs to be trained to have proper respect for law and order. People feel entitled and want to play arm chair lawyers when encountering law enforcement because it’s what they have been taught by liberal propaganda. It’s a culture of lawless policy that is the downward spiral of our country, leading us toward inevitable self destruction.

If you are asked/told to stop and decide to continue you get what you get. The decision is made by the suspect. Officers react to the decision made by the suspect.

Need more context. That being said, I’m not the biggest dude in the world but that young lady looks like she is 65 pounds soaking wet. Maybe she could have been subdued without the body slam? I’m not trying to Monday morning this but just food for thought. Outside of reaching for weapons in that tiny kitchen, I didn’t see a threat that warranted the slam. This is just my opinion and hasn’t been evaluated by the food and drug administration.

Well we don't know what the officers were told when they were dispatched to the call. Several concerns that I see in this short video are that the officers have to enter an apartment where the space is confined. (Remember the posts about the 21 foot rule. That rule does not apply here.). The actor is right up on the officers. She is not listening to their instructions. She keeps approaching them. She is in the kitchen where there are many common household items that can be used as deadly weapons. Often more force used up front can end a situation before it really gets out of hand. Let me pose this example. What if the officers continued to banter back and forth with the actor instead of going hands on? She eventually picks up a knife and the officers are forced to shoot her. Which would have been the better scenario? Bottom line the force was justified.

I hope he had probable cause already when he asked her what happened and that it was not her place of residence and there was someone who lived there wanted her out. If not they were out of control. You cannot go ballistic when you tell someone in their own home talking on a phone to stop or not to get close in the doorway of her kitchen. The MMA slam to cuff shows attitude or training problems.

What she has to understand is once the police is on scene they are in charge, she must comply with their commands, not sure about the push, I would rather have him taking control by grabbing her arm keeping her with in arm’s length to handcuff if necessary.

Erik Lavigne, not in any way disputing the angle or opinion you have here: Without the call the officers had to have been here and content in that call. Without the full details from the time they knocked and entered, Without other offices (if present) camera angles, Without, all of the other specific things that happened right up to the moment we START seeing this "vid". Your ask of a citizen will not EVER be "FACT BASED". AND Where other LEO (who were not there) will judge also NOT ON FACTS, but on POLICIES, the role they have as LEO, and where the UKNOWNS that were known to those there, LENDS TO EASY "COUCH POTATO" opinions also NOT based on facts. (GENERAL, yes, specific to this situation, NO) SO, merely asking someone who has not ever been a LEO to put themselves into the thinking OF someone like you or your podcaster peers, ISN'T A REALISTIC EXPECTATION for them to remotely understand and share a perspective that is "Valid". I, KNOW YOU, from your "stopping me" during routine due to a situation where you had legit reason to "QUESTION"... Were I you, and you I, in that situation I also would have "had reason to stop or detain momentarily". My reply? I would not EVER, corner someone hostile, I would call and let YOU!

This belongs on FaceBook, not LinkedIn. Not appropriate.