Solar tales
Insight into the residential solar industry; a view behind the ‘curtain’
Getting Started, “I am ready to get solar, what do I do?”
Many people, when they decide it’s time to get solar panels, go online, find what they think is a reputable website, or maybe a solar company ‘finds’ them online, they fill out a form and wait for a call or email. What they are often not aware of is that they reached a “Landing Page”. A single webpage, or “website” with a form that collects their information, they then turn around and sell the information to multiple solar companies. There is no surprise then that the homeowner gets 2, 3 and sometimes 4 calls or more from different solar companies that paid for this “warm lead”. In the free market, competition is great and getting multiple quotes is a very good idea for many reasons, however, wouldn’t you like to choose who gets your information? Wouldn’t you like to know what company is about to call you? Note that often when you ask for the name of the company the answer is vague. So, before you agree to schedule an appointment, insist on getting the name of the company, write it down, and ask them to call you back later. After you hang up, Google (Bing, Yahoo) search that name and see if indeed it’s a solar company or just a landing page. See if they have original content and if the photos look like stock photos. Navigate their website and get a feel for it. Then, Google the name again and see if there are independent reviews about them and if you want you can even search them in Better Business Bureau (or your state Contractors Licensing Agency). Only after you feel pretty confident that they have ‘passed the test’, agree to an appointment. As with everything, it is a good idea to get multiple quotes and make sure that the consultant in front of you knows that. Many companies have a price range. When you mention multiple quotes you automatically put the consultant in a competitive mode and likely to get a better quote. Solar consultants are trained to ‘overcome objections’ and close the deal in one appointment. Don’t do that, no matter how hard they try to entice you with, “only if you sign today…” or “time is running out…” and no matter how comfortable you feel with a particular consultant, don’t do that. Don’t feel bad for the person in front of you, if they really want your business, they will come back.
Last word of advice, don’t shy away from small companies. Disclaimer: it is our biased opinion that bigger is not necessarily better…
Horror Stories & Turnkey-solar price breakdown
We often hear ‘horror’ stories of homeowners that got inundated with calls with various degrees of ‘pushiness’ and ‘sleekness’ that promise them the moon and the stars, not to mention the sun (pun intended), that tell them that it’s a ‘government program’, that their panels will be ‘free’ and when the ‘carrot’ doesn’t do the trick, they might say that there is a law (in California) that will penalize homeowners that do NOT go solar… You have to realize that everybody involved is under a lot of pressure to perform and deliver and they get paid for results and as it is now, you the customer, “is king”. Some statistics put the number of solar companies in the US at around 5,000!!! It’s a relatively new industry where in spite of the great price decrease, the profit margins for the solar company can be substantial. Just like in any other industry, you need to realize that the ‘turnkey solution’ can be broken down in the various costs. Here they are:
The panels themselves, the inverter (that changes the kind of electricity from DC (produced by the panels) to AC (which we use in our homes) and then, what we call in the industry the BOS (Balance Of System), meaning, all the racking, roof attachments, pipes, wires etc. Sometimes there is the need to trench (and bury a conduit that protects the wires that carry the electricity produced by the panels to the main service panel) and often there is a need to perform a main service panel upgrade. Besides the hardware, there is the cost of system design and permit package preparation, site assessment, pulling the permit, office management of the project before and after the installation, sales team that are paid through commission, either exclusively or in conjunction with a salary, warehousing, trucks and other vehicles, insurances and that’s basically it, if we haven’t left out anything – yes we did leave one thing out: “Getting the lead”
“Getting the lead”, that is to say, YOU, the potential-customer
This is just an FYI, in the solar industry, the connection to you, dear potential customer, “getting in front” of you and other decision makers in the house, sitting for a consultation at your kitchen table, is the most coveted component yet the hardest to put a precise value when looking at the total price of a turnkey solar system. Please keep in mind that we are talking now from ‘behind the curtain’, totally from the perspective of solar as a business. It might feel ‘cold’ to be considered as another line item alongside racking or wiring but this is the reality. It shouldn’t surprise you since we all have heard of the term ‘customer acquisition cost’… How much does it cost to acquire a customer and what do solar companies pay and do, directly or indirectly to get you as a customer? Now, before you let it go to your headJ, let me just remind you that solar in most circumstances, in one of the greatest investments you will make in your home, if nothing else, it is an hedge against ever increasing electricity prices. We, the solar industry as a whole, are really there to help you and you need us, as much as we need you.
Solar companies buy leads from different sources. Online, from lead generation companies that litter the World Wide Web with landing pages that collect potential customer information and either sell it exclusively to one, or to a few solar companies. It is all legit and part of common practices, you just need to be aware of it. They pay to be featured at the top of webs searches. They make their websites attractive, etc. etc. Then there are the calling centers that are either internal departments or external companies that telemarket and sometimes not just set the appointment but also sell over the phone. Another common practice is canvassing. Many get the famous door knock; again, it is all legit other than the fact that some homeowners get that door knock at least once a week. Then you have the stands in the malls and other public places or stores staffed with solar professionals that are there to schedule appointments. There is the social media sphere and let’s not forget radio and local television, organized events etc.
Customer acquisition and the ‘discoverability conundrum’
Most likely you personally experienced a few of the above approaches, there are different ways to acquire a customer. They all cost money and when it is all said and done, you, the customer is the one that pays for it. Come again?! Yes, ultimately you end up paying for the guy or gal to sit in front of you. But don’t worry, there is an ‘unless’ later on. On a seemingly unrelated note, I will ask you a question. Did you know that “15 minutes can save you… J”, No seriously, did you know that you can get a car insurance with identical coverage to that of the big insurance companies that constantly advertise, from companies you never heard of, at A MUCH CHEAPER PRICE??? Think about it for a moment please. This cost needs to be covered by someone, it is a line item in the total price and it’s us, ironically, who pay it. From our perspective as clients, when we buy something, whatever it may be, we are looking for a reliable service or product and at the same time we would like to get a great price, but if the service or product are easy to find, if it is a ‘brand’ that we already know about, there is probably a price premium added in!!! What I am trying to say is that if you heard of me, most likely it means that, as a company, I spent a lot of money to get my name out there and since I am priced to stay in business and be profitable, it means that you the customer are paying more than you could have, had you ‘found’ me by chance, word of mouth or extensive/smart research that requires an attention span longer than what is dedicated on average (such as reading this article). This is related to the next price-jacking factor, the size of the company.
Size matters & small is better…REALLY!!!
A small solar company, assuming it has good equipment to sell, the know-how, experience, customer-service, financing option you are looking for, everything else being equal and we are comparing apples to apples, is better than the large and famous. A small company can comfortably charge you 20%-30% less than a medium or large solar company. This is a bold statement isn’t it? This is due mainly to two reasons, they have paid less to reach or be reached (which we just covered) and have less management positions and other overheads that, you, the client, ultimately pay for. Here we are going to delve into this idea using my own personal, real world experience.
True personal story of a solar sales person, AKA, Solar Consultant. During my solar career I worked for a few small companies, a medium size company and very large solar company and I have formed certain opinions and drawn certain conclusions based on my experience. Again, it’s an opinion and you’ll be the judge. Working for a very large and famous such solar company after years of experience elsewhere, I truly felt that I finally found home! It felt great to be part of a big company, I felt that they got my back. It was about saving the planet, helping people save money and the potential to make a good income. Logo-ed shirts, health insurance and even a company car after a few months, not to mention a small salary. During the interview, I even overlooked the fact that the commission sounded really, really small. I thought to myself, since they got their stuff together I guess the sale volume is going compensate for the small commission, I trusted that they knew what they were doing. Looking back, about a year later, I realized that even in the best months with performance above average, I still couldn’t make ends meet. During this time I noticed that the turnover of consultants such as myself, was really high. Few people had more than a year in the company and very few, 2 years or more. How did my days look like? Typically, I would get some company leads but I also had to get them by myself. In order to acquire clients, I followed the guidance that we all got and I have tried everything, small gathering with potential customers where I explained the basics of solar and answered questions. Booths on street corner near homes we just installed solar on, booths in flea markets, talking to parents in schools and more. I put into it everything I had and was constantly hoping for better results. Nobody said it’s going to be easy and I was willing and eager to do the work, I kept thinking, it will eventually work for me. I attended lectures with company ‘aces’ as part of the company continued education, individuals that really crushed it, trying to learn from them. At the end I had to conclude that this company works well for the outstanding few top percent…and I wasn’t one of them. This company is known in the industry as a place to learn and gain experience… and then leave, not a place to build a career. So, there must be something fundamentally flawed in what they do, otherwise the turnover wouldn’t be so atrocious, wouldn’t you agree? Also, from the solar installers’ perspective, they are constantly under pressure to perform, to work fast, to finish a job and hurry to the next and for them as well, the pay is not great. Things are different at the management level. As in any large company, there are multiple levels of management with increasingly high salaries. And, here we are getting to a fundamental challenge that I see for this company, there are two poles-that-pull in opposite directions; the national and the local. What do I mean by that? One might be tempted to think that there are only good things that come from being big. One headquarter and a lot of local offices and warehouses peppered across the land. No doubt, great savings come from buying solar panels and other equipment in bulk. There is one hierarchical management team BUT, unlike an online business, at the end of the day, each solar system needs a local team with extensive logistical support, you need ‘boots on the ground’ that installs the systems and no matter how hard you crack that whip or optimize procedures you are dealing with those pesky humans that need a water break and then there is city traffic or large distances within a territory and the challenge to get from one location to another. You need system designers, people that pull permits, there is low/middle level management, installation managers and manager of those that all take home a much higher paycheck than the guy in the field, be it a consultant or an installer. There is also a large, remote, centralized project support department. One might deduce that there is an intrinsic problem to the model of a national solar company because of the unavoidable heavy organizational structure. Maybe the model is flawed and can never reach the efficiency and flexibility of local companies. This company is going through constant and various degrees of restructuring without ever finding a stable, sustainable internal model of operation. On top of all that there is the constant training of new people, many of which leave soon after the company spent all that money to get them trained. So maybe, just maybe, it is an intrinsic issue that cannot be overcome. Maybe the national and the local do and will always, pull in opposite directions. They will tell you that they have been growing at an amazing rate and those growing pains are unavoidable and maybe it’s true.
I will mention here one last important factor, if we are talking about a publically traded company, there is the investor that expects to make a profit and need to be ‘fed’. So it can all boil down to a simple question. How many mouths need to be fed and how big of a bite each one of them take? Then compare it to a small company…
Now, let’s finally get to the price which was the reason for this paragraph. The price is fixed and causes many jobs to simply be rejected by the company itself (when there are additional expenses associated with the job and there is no profit left). Most importantly, the price is high. Higher than the average market price. I once got a client that signed a contract for a very large system and after a few days he called me to cancel. He did some shopping around and got quotes that were 30% lower than what I could offer him. When I pointed out all the extras that he’s getting with us, he smiled and said, it doesn’t matter what you are going to tell me, it doesn’t justify this large difference! Interestingly, after a while the company reduced the price by 20%. On the other end of the spectrum, take a small company for example, like the one I am with now, we can provide an identical system without the, hyped, production guarantee (we provide an extended inverter warranty to compensate for this missing element) and now as of 2017 we can sell a solar system at 25% lower price and still make a profit AND pay well every employee. Where all this extra money go? I suspect that it goes to feed that model of a national/local company. Now, before we move to production guarantee, I just want to mention that there is another national brand I was associated with that works more as a franchise where the local companies have much more independence and flexibility. I see that model working better. The price is flexible so they never reject any job, they can just charge a bit more if they need to.
Production Guarantee, what is it and is it really necessary?
What is production guarantee? Before we can address that we have to speak about kW and kWh (Kilowatt and Kilowatt hour). kW is the sum total power that you read off the stickers at the back of all the panels put together in a system (DC at ideal conditions). For example, 10 panels of 300 watt each, give you one system of 3,000 watts or 3.0 Kilowatt (kW). Now, how much electricity this 3 kW system produces is the kWh and it depends on various factors such as: the time of day, sunny vs. cloudy or rainy day, it depends what direction the panels face, the pitch of the roof, how much dirt is on the panel and if it is shaded or not. At the end of the day, after installing solar, how much we pay the utility company depends on who wins the arm wrestling between what the house draws and what the solar system provides, in other words, we care about how many kWh we produce in a day, month and year. No matter how large the system installed, if it doesn’t work properly, the production will be less than what it is supposed to be. So production guarantee says that the solar company is committed to have the solar system provide a minimum amount of electricity and if not, they are going to pay certain cents/kWh. There is no doubt that production guarantee adds peace of mind. We just have to see how much are we willing to pay for that and importantly, if we don’t have production guarantee, what can we expect? Circling back to my client that canceled on me after already signing the contract, he thought that the premium was not justified. After all, let’s not forget that solar panels come with 25 years factory warranty and most importantly, even much older panels, continue to work just fine for long, long time, there is just a predictable annual reduction in the output of about 0.5%-0.75% a year (which BTW is accounted for even in the production guarantee, in other words the annual kWh/year that are guaranteed go down year after year). So the panels are just fine and the likelihood of them breaking down is very, very low and if they do, they will get replaced free of charge. Yes in that very unlikely eventuality, till the new panels arrive and are replaced, the system is down and the client is not compensated for the loss in production. Again, very low likelihood. The inverter on the other hand is a more delicate piece of equipment that is not expected to last 25 years, hence the extended warranty that we purchase for the client from the inverter manufacturer and is included in our low price. Last important factor to take into account during the system design is how shade, angle and azimuth (direction) will affect the output. Since any of those factors can significantly reduce the production if not ideal, you have to account for that and either install more panels, thus increase the wattage and the corresponding price of the system or clearly indicate to the client what percentage offset and what kind of post solar electric bill they should expect. This is always true with or without production guarantee. That’s where it is a good idea for the client to ask to see the design and the calculation of the expected output before signing the contract.
Post-solar; happily ever after?
So you got your solar system installed and you have your monthly payments, either fixed or with an escalator (and it’s either a lease or a purchase, whose pros and cons won’t be discussed in this article); is your electric bill exactly zero? The answer is no, it will always be positive or negative, just hopefully very close to zero. First of all, don’t focus on the monthly bill or statement, where the rubber meets the road is the “true-up bill”. A yearly settlement where either the utility pays you or you pay them something. Due to year to year variability in energy use as well as natural year to year production variability, it is impossible for the true up bill to be exactly zero. Furthermore, some utilities have a minimum connection fees, monthly charges that sometimes can be zeroed out if your system overproduces. Over-production means that on a yearly basis your system makes more energy than your house needs. A while back some bad solar companies had a dubious strategy not to bother and match the system size with the actual usage. They would just go with a safe low number and ‘sell’ the corresponding low monthly payment which would make it an easy sell. The client often assumed that that is all they needed, the sales person would keep it vague and wouldn’t bother explaining that the system probably isn’t going to zero out the bill and then the homeowner would get a large true-up bill a year later. Now, there is nothing wrong with selling a smaller system than full offset, in the solar industry we call it ‘tier shaving’, where you aim to offset the higher, most expensive tiers. As long as the client understands that that is what he’s buying, that’s fine. In cases that people have a discounted rate due to low income qualification or medical baseline, this is a legitimate strategy since the price of the low tier is really low and actually lower than solar. Sometimes though, clients have short memory and if it is not written down there can be misunderstanding later. I have such a client that in spite of the fact that I told him multiple times that I am only giving him enough solar to provide 60% of his energy (and the rest will continue to come from the utility), a year later asked me why his bill is not zero???
Having said all that, most solar customers are happy with the decision to go solar. They save a lot of money on their bill and they shield themselves from utility price increases.
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1. Done-right?
2. Quickly?
3. At a low-price?
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