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Epic v. Google: everything we’ve learned in Fortnite court

The future of Google’s app store is at stake in a lawsuit by Fortnite publisher Epic Games. Epic sued Google in 2020 after a fight over in-app purchase fees, claiming the Android operating system’s Google Play store constituted an unlawful monopoly. It wanted Google to make using third-party app stores, sideloaded apps, and non-Google payment processors easier — while Google said its demands would damage Android’s ability to offer a secure user experience and compete with Apple’s iOS.

On December 11th 2023, the jury ruled in Epic’s favor, finding that Google has turned its Google Play app store and Google Play Billing service into an illegal monopoly, answering yes to every question in front of them about Google’s monopoly power, anticompetitive behavior, and the illegal ties between the different parts of its business.

As of August 2024, we’re waiting for the judge to issue his final decision on what Google must do as a result.

Follow along with all of our updates below.

  • “Google did not request that Samsung create their Auto Blocker feature.”

    That’s according to Google’s head of Android security, David Kleidermacher, who is publicly pushing back on the claims made by Epic Games in its new lawsuit against Google and Samsung.

    Earlier, Samsung said it plans to “vigorously contest Epic Game’s baseless claims.”


    That’s why Google offers its own safety features such as Google Play Protect, which checks for harmful apps on a user’s device, regardless of where the app was downloaded. Android device makers are free to innovate and design additional safety features for their devices. To make this about access to a game is deliberately misleading; this is about user safety. And Epic’s lawsuit puts their corporate interests above user protections.
    Screenshot: @daveksecure (X)
  • Samsung won’t confirm or deny whether it worked with Google on Auto Blocker — or whether it actually scans for threats.

    Google, too, wouldn’t confirm or deny whether it worked with Samsung on the feature, which is now the target of a new Epic Games lawsuit against both companies.

    Instead, Google tells The Verge that it’s “a meritless lawsuit”; Samsung tells us it plans to “vigorously contest Epic Game’s baseless claims.”


  • Tim Sweeney says his Epic lawsuits are all about freeing the youth:

    We want our kids to grow up in a world that’s better than this one. I grew up in an awesome world for developers and opportunity, the early days of Apple II computers and PCs, and anybody growing up, coming of age in this industry right now, is best case going to be an Apple and Google serf. That has to change. That must change.

    Not surprising to hear the man behind “Nineteen Eighty-Fortnite” say this, but it really does encapsulate his war with the tech industry. More on the latest lawsuit here.


  • Epic is suing Google — again — and now Samsung, too

    Photo illustration of Tim Sweeney in front of Google and Epic logos.
    Photo illustration by Cath Virginia / The Verge | Photo by Philip Pacheco, Getty Images

    Four years after Epic sued Google for running an illegal app store monopoly — a case it won this past December — Epic is suing again. The Fortnite game developer has filed a second antitrust lawsuit against Google, and now additionally Samsung, accusing them of illegally conspiring to undermine third-party app stores.

    The lawsuit revolves around Samsung’s “Auto Blocker” feature, which now comes turned-on-by-default on new Samsung phones. While it’s turned on, it automatically keeps users from installing apps unless they come from “authorized sources” — namely, Google and Samsung’s app stores. Epic claims there’s no process for any rival store to become “authorized.”

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  • Epic judge says he’ll ‘tear the barriers down’ on Google’s app store monopoly

    Illustration of the Epic Games logo and Google logo inside of a Google Play logo.
    Illustration by Cath Virginia / The Verge

    Judge James Donato just made it crystal clear: Google will pay.

    Eight months after a federal jury unanimously decided that Google’s Android app store is an illegal monopoly in Epic v. Google, Donato held his final hearing on remedies today. While we don’t yet know what will happen, he repeatedly shut down any suggestion that Google shouldn’t have to open up its store to rival stores, that it’d be too much work or cost too much, or that the proposed remedies go too far.

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  • Here’s how much Google says it’d cost to fulfill Epic’s biggest demands

    Illustration of the Epic Games logo and Google logo inside of a Google Play logo.
    Illustration by Cath Virginia / The Verge

    How much would it cost Google to let third-party app stores like the Epic Games Store live inside its own Google Play Store, with access to every Android app? Google says the reputational damage can’t be calculated — but that it’d take 12 to 18 months and upwards of $60 million to build and maintain the technical underpinnings.

    We’re still waiting to find out what Epic actually won in its surprise victory against Google last December, after a jury decided the Google Play app store and Google Play Billing are illegal monopolies — but we know what Epic wants. The Fortnite developer’s biggest ask was arguably for Google to open up its own Android app store, forcing Google to carry other competing app stores inside its walls.

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  • Judge orders Google to calculate the costs of Epic’s biggest Play Store demand

    Photo illustration of Sundar Pichai and Tim Sweeney with the Google logo, Google Play logo, and the Epic Games logo.
    Photo illustration by Cath Virginia / The Verge | Photos by Philip Pacheco, Bloomberg, Getty Images

    Despite Epic Games’ surprise win at trial, I was skeptical that Judge James Donato would seriously consider forcing Google to let the Epic Games Store live inside its own Google Play Store, and give it access to every app inside Google Play. Those were two of the biggest demands that Epic revealed in April.

    But Judge Donato is indeed considering them. He’s ordered Google to calculate the costs of complying with those demands by June 24th, one month from today:

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  • Judge doesn’t buy Google’s ‘terrifying world of chaos’ argument in Epic case

    Photo illustration of a gavel casting a shadow over the Google logo
    Epic and Google are back in court to argue how Google should be forced to change its Play Store business.
    Illustration by Cath Virginia / The Verge

    After a jury declared the Play Store an illegal monopoly in the Epic v. Google lawsuit last year, both companies faced off in court again on Thursday to decide on the specific changes Google will have to make to rectify the issue, as reported by Reuters and Wired.

    Epic is hoping the court approves several remedies it had previously submitted, which Google claims are over the top and would “harm the privacy, security, and overall experience of consumers.” So all eyes are on Judge James Donato, who heard testimony on both sides and offered some hints as to how he’s leaning.

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  • Google issues response to Epic wishlist.

    It’s exactly what you’d expect after the Fortnite maker said it was entitled to everything and a bag of chips due to its antitrust victory in federal court. Google wants Judge James Donato to think different:

    “Epic’s demands would harm the privacy, security, and overall experience of consumers, developers, and device manufacturers. Not only does their proposal go far beyond the scope of the recent U.S. trial verdict – which we will be challenging – it’s also unnecessary due to the settlement we reached last year with State Attorneys General from every state and multiple territories.”

    We’ll find out exactly how Android and the Google Play Store will change in a hearing that begins on May 23rd.


  • Here’s 16 pages of what Epic wants after winning its Google app store lawsuit

    Photo illustration of Tim Sweeney in front of Google and Epic logos.
    Photo illustration by Cath Virginia / The Verge | Photo by Philip Pacheco, Getty Images

    Do you think a judge will make Google allow an Android version of the Epic Games Store to live inside its own Google Play Store, let the Epic Games Store have access to every app inside Google Play, and let Android users begin sideloading apps with a single tap? Because Epic’s asking for those and a whole lot more in the aftermath of Epic v. Google.

    On December 11th, Epic won a surprise victory against Google in federal court. A jury unanimously decided that Google had turned its Google Play app store and Google Play Billing service into an illegal monopoly. But what did Epic win? That’s yet to be decided by Judge James Donato, and today, we’re finally learning precisely what Epic believes it should get.

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  • Sean Hollister

    Dec 19, 2023

    Sean Hollister

    Google to pay $700 million and make tiny app store changes to settle with 50 states

    Illustration by Alex Castro / The Verge

    On December 11th, a jury decided that Google has an illegal monopoly with its Google Play app store, handing Epic Games a win. But Epic wasn’t the only one fighting an antitrust case. All 50 state attorneys general settled a similar lawsuit in September, and we’ve just now learned what Google agreed to give up as a result: $700 million and a handful of minor concessions in the way that Google runs its store in the United States.

    The biggest change: Google will need to let developers steer consumers away from the Google Play Store for several years, if this settlement is approved.

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  • Sean Hollister

    Dec 16, 2023

    Sean Hollister

    The Epic question: how Google lost when Apple won

    Image: Epic Games

    Apple rules the iPhone’s App Store with an iron fist — sideloading outside it is not allowed. Google lets anyone install any app on an Android phone. But guess which one of these two companies has an illegal monopoly, according to the courts?

    As you probably already know, Google is the one that lost its fight against Epic Games this week. It’s a fight that Apple previously (mostly) won in a similar trial in 2021, beating claims that it had violated antitrust laws by charging mandatory in-app transaction fees and kicking Epic’s game Fortnite off the App Store. Google tried a similar move, but in its case, a jury found it had maintained an unlawful monopoly with the Play store; a judge is scheduled to consider remedies next month.

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  • Sean Hollister

    Dec 13, 2023

    Sean Hollister

    Epic juror confirms Google’s deleted chats were a factor in the verdict.

    Xu Yuan, a friendly courtroom reporter for MLex that I sat with regularly during the trial, managed to obtain an interview with one of the Epic v. Google jurors — who confirmed that Google’s deleted chats affected their decision.

    That same juror found Tim Sweeney “very honest” and more credible than Google’s CEO.


  • Sean Hollister

    Dec 12, 2023

    Sean Hollister

    Epic CEO Tim Sweeney: the post-trial interview

    Photo illustration of Tim Sweeney in front of Google and Epic logos.
    Photo illustration by Cath Virginia / The Verge | Photo by Philip Pacheco, Getty Images

    Tim Sweeney finally has a win.

    On Monday, a federal jury surprised the world by siding with Fortnite maker Epic Games in its fight to break Google’s control over Android apps — even though “walled garden” rival Apple almost entirely won a similar case two years ago. The nine-person jury decided that Google has an illegal monopoly over Android app distribution and in-app payment systems, and that Google illegally tied its Google Play billing system to its app store.

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  • Sean Hollister

    Dec 12, 2023

    Sean Hollister

    And here is Epic’s celebratory blog post after the Epic v. Google ruling.

    In case you’re wondering why Tim Sweeney was thanking jurors on behalf of 1 million developers... it’s part of this blog post, too.


  • Sean Hollister

    Dec 12, 2023

    Sean Hollister

    Epic win: Jury decides Google has illegal monopoly in app store fight

    Illustration of the Epic Games logo and Google logo inside of a Google Play logo.
    Illustration by Cath Virginia / The Verge

    Three years after Fortnite-maker Epic Games sued Apple and Google for allegedly running illegal app store monopolies, Epic has a win. The jury in Epic v. Google has just delivered its verdict — and it found that Google turned its Google Play app store and Google Play Billing service into an illegal monopoly.

    After just a few hours of deliberation, the jury unanimously answered yes to every question put before them — that Google has monopoly power in the Android app distribution markets and in-app billing services markets, that Google did anticompetitive things in those markets, and that Epic was injured by that behavior. They decided Google has an illegal tie between its Google Play app store and its Google Play Billing payment services, too, and that its distribution agreement, Project Hug deals with game developers, and deals with OEMs were all anticompetitive.

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  • Sean Hollister

    Dec 12, 2023

    Sean Hollister

    Google will appeal the Epic v. Google verdict.

    We plan to challenge the verdict. Android and Google Play provide more choice and openness than any other major mobile platform. The trial made clear that we compete fiercely with Apple and its App Store, as well as app stores on Android devices and gaming consoles. We will continue to defend the Android business model and remain deeply committed to our users, partners, and the broader Android ecosystem. - Wilson White, VP, Government Affairs & Public Policy

    That's not surprising: a jury gave Epic a total victory today.


  • Sean Hollister

    Dec 12, 2023

    Sean Hollister

    Here is Tim Sweeney’s victory tweet following the Epic v. Google verdict:

    “Victory over Google! After 4 weeks of detailed court testimony, the California jury found against the Google Play monopoly on all counts. The Court’s work on remedies will start in January. Thanks for everyone’s support and faith! Free Fortnite!”


  • Sean Hollister

    Dec 12, 2023

    Sean Hollister

    In the hallway, Epic's attorneys are taking photos with the jurors.

    The jury is all smiles. "The one million game developers who couldn't be here thank you," says Sweeney, as they head into the elevator and down out of the courthouse.


  • Sean Hollister

    Dec 12, 2023

    Sean Hollister

    Epic CEO Tim Sweeney has a huge smile on his face and is shaking hands.

    He thanked Google’s lead attorney Glenn Pomerantz “for being very professional” and clapped Epic’s lead attorney Gary Bornstein on the back.

    Attorneys for both sides will meet with the judge in the second week of January to discuss next steps.


  • Sean Hollister

    Dec 12, 2023

    Sean Hollister

    We have a verdict in Epic v. Google.

    Stand by... attorneys and journalists have filed back into the courtroom. We’re waiting for the judge and jury now.


  • Sean Hollister

    Dec 11, 2023

    Sean Hollister

    We’re done with closing arguments in Epic v. Google.

    Bornstein asked the jury to carefully read the jury instructions because Google apparently cherry-picked a sentence to point out to them earlier. He also asked them to consider whether Google tried to nip competition in the bud before it could ever emerge.

    The jury filed out, the judge thanked both parties for preparing the case well and arguing it efficiently... and now, we’re done until there’s a verdict! It sounds like the jury will eat lunch before beginning deliberations, so I should have time to grab some food as well.


  • Sean Hollister

    Dec 11, 2023

    Sean Hollister

    Epic: “I agree with Google, we need to look at the real world.”

    Epic is getting eight minutes of rebuttal to Google’s closing argument, and lead attorney Gary Bornstein is using part of it to argue this: we should look at the internal documents in this case to see what’s actually going on.

    “What did they say in their documents? That tells you what they believed in the real world.”

    He begins by showing one of the emails Google showed us about reacting to an Apple change in price — and that Google chose not to follow that price change at the time.

    “They chose not to change their price despite believing that Apple was changing theirs,” he says, and “during that time not a single developer pulled out of the Play Store to focus on iOS.”


  • Sean Hollister

    Dec 11, 2023

    Sean Hollister

    Google points out Epic has never shown a less restrictive way to collect its fee.

    Kravis says it’s a “reliable and efficient way to collect the fee” to tie it to its own billing system — which is why every other app and game platform does it the same way, he claims.


  • Sean Hollister

    Dec 11, 2023

    Sean Hollister

    Hah, yes, Google is also visually showing the jury which box it believes they should check on the verdict form.

    But unlike Epic, it’s using red X’s instead of check marks on its visual aids.


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