Intel's Arrow Lake LGA1851 CPU socket detailed
Arrow Lake under the spotlight
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New pinout details and I/O information regarding Intel's upcoming Core Ultra 200 series CPUs codenamed Arrow Lake-S and its associated LGA1851 socket have surfaced. Jaykihn0 on X (Twitter) purportedly showed off a complete layout of the LGA1851 socket, along with details surrounding Arrow Lake's I/O configuration for both mobile and desktop processors.
Jay's information reveals that the I/O connectivity for Arrow Lake-S for the desktop barely changes compared to Intel's Arrow Lake-HX processors for mobile. The only change being added to Arrow Lake-S is the addition of one extra USB 2 port to the PCH. Everything else remains the same, including the PCIe 5.0 support, featuring support for a single x16 slot and one x4 M.2 SSD, and the PCIe 4.0 support, which includes a whole host of connectivity such as secondary PCIe slots, Gigabit Ethernet, and SATA ports.
It's worth mentioning that the accommodations only apply to what Arrow Lake-S can do with native connectivity alone. We will inevitably see high-end LGA1851 motherboards featuring third-party controllers for adding additional USB ports, Thunderbolt ports, and USB 4 ports for power users who need more than what the Arrow-Lake platform can offer.
Lunar Lake is quite different from Arrow Lake. Lunar Lake supports up to six USB 2 ports, two USB 3 ports, and, for the first time, two USB 3.2 Gen 2x1 ports. Lunar Lake will support UFS storage natively for the first time. UFS, or Universal Flash Storage, is a standard used extensively in smartphones and tablets. Despite being known as a sluggish performing standard for years, recent iterations of the UFS—particularly UFS 3.0, 3.1, and 4.0—have massively improved UFS' bandwidth potential, with UFS 4.0 compatible storage solutions boasting speeds that rival some slower PCIe 3.0 NVMe M.2 SSDs.
Edit 7/2/2024 3pm PT: Fixed incorrect comparisons.
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Admin said:The new architecture will reportedly only come with one extra USB 2.0 port over Alder Lake, making Arrow Lake's connectivity virtually identical to its predecessors.
Intel's Arrow Lake CPU socket is nearly identical to the old socket — LGA1851 pinout shows one additional USB 2.0 portLGA1851 pinout shows one additional USB 2.0 port , With just a single change to the USB 2 configuration, Arrow Lake-S on the connectivity side virtually changes nothing
Jay's information reveals that Arrow Lake's I/O connectivity barely changes compared to Intel's outgoing 14th-gen, 13th-gen, and 12th-gen processors. The only change being added to Arrow Lake-S is the addition of one extra USB 2 port to the PCH
The only change being added to Arrow Lake-S is the addition of one extra USB 2 port to the PCH
With just a single change to the USB 2 configuration, Arrow Lake-S on the connectivity side virtually changes nothing
Erm, what ? That's not correct. You got it all wrong.
Leak only mentions that the Mobile "Arrow Lake-HX" CPUs will be similar to the "Arrow Lake-S" desktop offerings since they are based on a similar die. But the only difference is one extra USB2 lane.
Where was the "ALDER LAKE" lineup mentioned, and where does the tweet say that Arrow Lake's connectivity is virtually identical to its predecessors. ? That's false info.
The one extra USB2 lane which the leaker claims, is in reference to the Mobile Arrow Lake-HX CPU lineup, when compared to the Arrow Lake-S DESKTOP processor series
And, the LGA 1851 layout is also very different vs the existing LGA 1700/1800 socket, which is obvious from the floorplan. The new socket comes with 51 additional pins in the LGA format.
How can they be identical ? Sorry, the article contains quite a few inconsistencies ! Misinformation.
LGA 1851.
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LGA 1700 socket.
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nevcairiel Arrow Lake actually adds 4 extra PCIe 5.0 lanes straight off of the CPU for an SSD or other device, to start with. The tweet in question even contains that information in the IO breakdown table.Reply
The "1 usb port difference" is between the mobile Arrow Lake and Desktop Arrow Lake. Which is all the tweet actually compares - mobile to desktop. If you want to compare to previous gen, I'm afraid you need to actually put in some work - which didn't happen. -
Here is the FULL I/O config breakdown for Arrow Lake S, HX, H and Lunar Lake platforms. How can these be the same as previous gen platforms, as the article claims.Reply
The one extra USB2 lane which the article mentions was in reference to the Mobile Arrow Lake-HX CPU lineup, vs the Arrow Lake-S DESKTOP processor lineup.
There was no mention of Alder Lake, and the article has got it all wrong. Please make the necessary corrections.
Arrow Lake-S desktop series.
Arrow Lake HX high-end Mobile lineup.
Arrow Lake-H mobile parts.
Lunar Lake Mobile SoC.
Arrow Lake-S desktop CPUs will feature 16 PCIe Gen5 lanes dedicated to discrete graphics, on the SOC Tile, whereas the IOE Tile features 4 Gen5 lanes and 4 Gen4 lanes dedicated to M.2 SSDs.
We have 4 extra PCIe 5.0 lanes here compared to previous gen Raptor Lake S platform.
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nevcairiel said:The "1 usb port difference" is between the mobile Arrow Lake and Desktop Arrow Lake. Which is all the tweet actually compares - mobile to desktop.
Exactly. That's what the leaker in his tweet was trying to convey. The author of this article should make the necessary correction in his article, otherwise it could mean entirely something else for readers.
@JarredWaltonGPU please can you look into this ? Thanks. -
Jaykihn0 Jaykihn here.Reply
This article is completely incorrect, in multiple ways, and requires either a revision or to be taken down. It does not reflect my claims.
I’m severely disappointed in the folks at Tomshardware who were involved with the publishing of this article.
Thank you to the other users in comments section correcting the claims made. -
Jaykihn0 said:Jaykihn here.
This article is completely incorrect, in multiple ways, and requires either a revision or to be taken down. It does not reflect my claims.
I’m severely disappointed in the folks at Tomshardware who were involved with the publishing of this article.
Thank you to the other users in comments section correcting the claims made.
Thanks for dropping by, Jay ! Yes, the article needs serious editing ! But I have also tagged the senior Editor. This author usually makes mistakes in some of his articles.
Sadly, that's the case with Tom's these days.
I guess I'm gonna email and PM 'PAUL Alcorn' now. Gotta sort other things out as well. -
edzieba Tom's have now edited the article body, but the headline text on the homepage remains the incorrect "Intel's Arrow Lake CPU socket is nearly identical to the old socket".Reply -
TechyIT223 Yup, the headline still not corrected. LoL.Reply
If I understand this correctly, we can now easily use Gen 5 lanes for both the GPU as well as the gen 5.0 SSD, without sacrificing performance? Right? Because of 4 extra gen 5 lanes?
I'm sorry I always get confused when it comes to PCIE lanes. -
TechyIT223 But we don't have any GPU that can take advantage of PCIe gen 5 bandwidth, or the full potential of the interface then what's the point of having a PCIE Gen 5 capable slot or lane in the mobo ?Reply
Also, there aren't any GPUs that are fully Gen 5 capable either. Most high end cards only support PCIe express Gen 4.0 x16 lane.