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Kate Eppler, Richmond library director and Susan D. Anderson, chief curator of the California African American Museum.joined me for Bill Lucy; From Memphis to Mandela. I describe Lucy as the successor to A. Philip Randolph as the facilitator for civil rights and pointed to the override of the 1984 Reagan veto of the anti-apartheid bill by a Republican majority Senate as the template for today's movements. I also described my leadership of the 2017 movement to restore federal library funding.