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Building in Stealth | Product & Strategy I IIM Ahmedabad

If you are going to join a team, and you see a lot of leaders and employees from the same previous company like ex-ABC, it is a cartel that we are talking about. So, a couple of folks were hired from a particular organization, and they kept hiring from their previous organization until they became a majority. These hirings may or may not be based on meritocracy. And even then, the biases and favoritism continue because of the previous histories and relationships. I have worked with teams where people used to wear this badge of ex-ABC all the time and used it to defend their ability instead of doing actual solid work. I am not saying these teams are bad, but it is harder for a non-ex-ABC to succeed and shine in such teams. You can choose a better team where your work speaks more than your previous employment history. #teams #workculture

Tanoy Dewanjee

Data Science & AI | HSBC | Mentor @Descipr

5mo

In the first 5 years of your career, generally, you get hired for what you know. Next 5 years the hiring mostly happens based on who you know, and then onwards it is more about who knows you. Is it good or bad? it depends on the work that you are doing. If the person can get the job done and the manager is confident about the same, it's a good deal. But does that compromise the diversity of thoughts and ideas? Well, it depends on the value adds that someone nonfamiliar can bring to the table.

Varun Nagendra

Product Leader in Mobile Free-to-Play Gaming

4mo

I don’t think it’s fair to criticise people who take pride in having worked in an organization. If wearing an Ex-ABC badge is bad so is wearing an IIM-A badge. I’ve seen groups / tribes form out of people who studied in a particular university and those tend to be worse. Atleast folks hiring people from their former company have worked together in the past and can vouch for their actual work.

Srikanth Bhaskar

Problem Solver | Global Delivery | Digital & Business Transformation | Business Consulting | Product Development | Delivery Management | Startups Mentor | Angel Investment | IIMB Alumni

4mo

It necessarily doesn’t mean it’s bad, but overdoing it can make it toxic.. A leader once hired, may look to hiring from previous colleagues where they are suitable in the new place, thus helps him/her deliver value quicker and prove himself/herself.. It’s just the strategy of the leader.. making it feel like a crime is far fetched..

Binod Shankar

Executive Coach. Published Author. Board Member at Heriot-Watt. Corporate Trainer. Frequent guest on CNBC & Bloomberg. Sold my business to a multinational. I help professionals reach their potential.

5mo

Soni Shaw quite true. I’ve seen a lot especially in banking in the UAE where some leaders prefer to hire the people they once worked with and soon it becomes (for example) a “Citibank culture” and it becomes almost impossible to break into the resultant old boys club. All this is based on the primal need to belong and to be tribal but in the modern age it can be quite dysfunctional.

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4mo

Behold the illustrious domain known as "The Boys Club"! Picture it: a realm where camaraderie crackles in the air, where inside jokes echo through the halls, and where bonds are forged over shared experiences. But wait, here comes the plot twist: you, my friend, find yourself on the outside looking in.  Yes, you're the daring outsider, the rogue amidst the ranks, striding confidently where others fear to tread. Expect those curious glances, those raised eyebrows that silently ask, "What's this non-member doing here?" But fear not! For you bring a breath of fresh air, a dash of unpredictability to their carefully curated circle. After all, who wants to be just another member of the club when you can be the one who colors outside the lines? Welcome to the club of misfits, where being on the outside is the ultimate badge of honor!

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Arpita Karmakar

Director - People Success and Employee Experience @ Copperpod Digital

4mo

This is absolutely true in even startups where the initial team or even the first 50 folks are hired only from ex-organisation. This creates hive behavior and even nurtures a bullying environment. Defeats the very purpose of workplace diversity sadly.

Mária Rusnáková

Leader on Leave ☆ Enjoying life and books at the moment (Sabbatical)

4mo

Interesting to see this topic here, on LI. Happen a lot in towns and smaller cities, at least that is my feeling (we even laugh over here in Bratislava, that we recycle people around 4-5 companies)...it takes a lot of work to make the team sync if - as you named it - cartel is created. But I would give it a chance...maybe the shine will be that much stronger at the end 😊

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Binod Shankar

Executive Coach. Published Author. Board Member at Heriot-Watt. Corporate Trainer. Frequent guest on CNBC & Bloomberg. Sold my business to a multinational. I help professionals reach their potential.

5mo

Soni Shaw quite true. I’ve seen a lot especially in banking in the UAE where some leaders prefer to hire the people they once worked with and soon it becomes (for example) a “Citibank culture” and it becomes almost impossible to break into the resultant old boys club. All this is based on the primal need to belong and to be tribal but in the modern age it can be quite dysfunctional.

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Antoine Imberti, CFA

Head of Finance - Neobank (Stealth mode)

4mo

I experienced it first-hand... the culture was closed to feedback and mostly driven by ego. I felt like an outsider

Amit Baliga

Product Leader | SAAS | EdTech | FinTech | Consumer | PM Mentor

5mo

Have worked with such a company where the CEO brought in his “own guys” from his ex company. The sad part is they were “chosen” in spite of much better talent available in the market. And their performance reflected accordingly :|

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