Clarkson Attempts Ducted Wind Turbines—Again

Despite its previous association with a questionable wind turbine and its promoter, Clarkson University announced that the school in upstate New York has transferred ducted wind turbine technology developed on campus to a private company for commercialization.

Clarkson University professor Ken Visser said the company, Ducted Turbines International, will apply research funded by the university and by NEXUS-NY to develop a commercial product using ducted wind turbine technology.

Visser, an associate professor in the Department of Mechanical and Aeronautical Engineering at the small school in Potsdam, New York was controversially linked with Gerald Brock and his Windtamer venture. Visser, and by association Clarkson University, provided institutional legitimacy to Brock and his ducted wind turbine.

Brock, like many other promoters of ducted or Diffuser-Augmented Wind Turbines (DAWTs) before and since, made outlandish claims for his design. Brock used field tests conducted by Visser to justify his claims to have beaten the Betz limit.

Despite later attempts to distance himself from Brock and the claims made for the Windtamer design, Visser was associated with the product and the hype around ducted turbines in general. See Windtamer Hype Needs Trimmed: Betz Beaten Yet Again Raises Questions and Windtamer Ducted Wind Turbine Finally and Officially Kaput.

Brock peddled ducted wind turbines under various names up to the present.

Ducted wind turbine developers typically claim that the funnel-shaped shroud will concentrate the wind’s flow, allowing the wind turbine to produce far more energy for less cost than conventional wind turbines. In spite of decades of research and tens of millions of dollars in development, no ducted with turbine has ever lived up to the hype. The turbines either have not delivered better performance than conventional wind turbines or they were not significantly cheaper to build. Invariably the companies and their promoters fade away after the development money has been spent.

Visser says this time will be different. Based on his wind tunnel tests he claims he can improve the performance of ducted turbines over those that have gone before. His goal is to cut the cost of wind energy in half.

To justify his claims that this time is different, Visser says his wind tunnel tests show that his 2.5 meter rotor outperforms a Bergey XL1, a 2.5 meter diameter conventional wind turbine that has been on the market for many years.

However, Visser, like other ducted turbine proponents before him, compares only the rotor of the ducted turbine to the rotor of the Bergey wind turbine. Both are the same diameter. Visser omits that this duct, or the shroud surrounding his rotor, is much larger in diameter than the Bergey rotor.

The duct is 3.3 meter in diameter. The duct on Visser’s shroud intercepts nearly twice (1.74) as much of the wind stream as the 2.5 meter diameter rotor on the Begey XL1. Visser’s ducted turbine should capture 74% more energy as the Bergey XL1, all else being equal.

Visser estimates that his 1.2 kW ducted turbine will generate twice as many kilowatt-hours annually as the Bergey wind turbine for the same wind conditions.

Chapter 7 of Wind Energy for the Rest of Us, my new book on wind energy, takes a close look at ducted turbines and finds them wanting—time and time again. Windtamer is only mentioned in passing as simply another example of a failed ducted turbine hustle. It hardly rated inclusion in the 560-page book. The chapter, instead, examines FloDesign in particular and its commercial offshoot, Ogin. FloDesign-Ogin exhibited all the classic traits of ducted turbines and their promoters. Visser, Clarkson, and NEXUS-NY will unlikely never match the amount of money and engineering talent invested in Ogin by the likes of venture capitalists Kleiner Perkins. One pension fund alone “invested” $60 million in the project.

If Visser can’t build and operate his turbine for less than the cost per square meter of a conventional wind turbine, there’s no net gain. Thus, the NEXUS-NY research grant will have been squandered and the finger pointing will begin. NEXUS-NY is a program of High Tech Rochester (HTR) and is supported by the New York State Energy Research and Development Authority (NYSERDA). Who approved this grant? What were they thinking? Did they do their due diligence? Importantly, can they document that they reviewed widespread reports on the failures of previous ducted wind turbines and can they justify why this time the results would be different?


This article was revised 13 February 2017.

Brock used field tests conducted by Visser not wind tunnel tests.

The duct is 3.3 meters in diameter not 3.5 meter. The duct on Visser’s shroud intercepts 1.74 not twice as much of the wind stream as the 2.5 meter diameter rotor on the Begey XL1. Visser’s ducted turbine should capture 74% more rather than twice as much as the Bergey XL1, all else being equal.

A sentence explaining that Visser estimates that his 1.2 kW ducted turbine will generate twice as many kilowatt-hours annually as the Bergey wind turbine for the same wind conditions has been added.

The New York State Energy Research and Development Authority (NYSERDA) has not funded Visser’s ducted wind turbine technology. NEXUS-NY has funded Visser’s work. NEXUS-NY in turn receives funding from NYSERDA.


Paul Gipe is the author of Wind Energy for the Rest of Us: A Comprehensive Guide to Wind Power and How to Use It.

Dr.-Ing.George Pechlivanoglou

Director General at Eunice Energy Group

7y

Nicely said Paul! There are always these strange topics that attract all sorts of inventors, from the slightly misguided theoretician to the "engineering charlatans" :-) and Ducted Wind Turbines are such a topic. I call those..."invention wormholes" because they seem to be attracting everyone in their surrounding, but nothing comes out of them in the end :-) The interesting thing is that those are industry independent! It is not only wind industry that attracts these kinds of topics. An example of similar cases are the non-reciprocating internal combustion engines! In the last 60 -70 years it seems like everyone had a great idea about a rotary engine. Another one was the flying car! This is still going on as the invention of the future :-) Once again well done Paul, great article! George P.

Steve Compton

I am an Interim fixing and building technology businesses. More than 30 businesses incl 12 start-ups. Organizational, Operational and Technical up to C-level. Startups, SMEs and Multinationals. Growth and best practice.

7y

I've just realised Paul. You are the author of one of my first books on the subject. Almost certainly over a decade back.... nice to bump into you here. My background is in technical product development and helping Startups. In my experience, I'm finding a common theme here in that there is a technical and experience gap between enthusiastic starters of businesses and their investors. With turbines, there are several that I've seen come and go over the years after spending millions of investors money, that could have been quashed at birth by a few basic calculations and a bit of research. The one thing that people do seem efficient at is raising money.

Correct Steve Compton. The absence of competent due diligence is shocking. That's why I felt it important to include a section debunking this idea in my new book. Most books on wind energy don't even mention it. . .

Steve Compton

I am an Interim fixing and building technology businesses. More than 30 businesses incl 12 start-ups. Organizational, Operational and Technical up to C-level. Startups, SMEs and Multinationals. Growth and best practice.

7y

I thought that ducted turbines had been put to bed several decades back when I first got interested in alternative energy generation. Seems that people want to continually re-invent technology without taking into account prior research. That is not an efficient way to move forward with innovation.

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