Just wondering if theres a 1.5 fork or mod similar to this one for 1.5?

I know it is unsupported, but I just want to inform anyone stumbling upon this message, that this mod causes newly generated pawns to automatically have old-age ailments (ie. dementia, hearing-loss)

I use an archive version of Rimworld so that my mods don't keep constantly going out of style (or, you know, crashing the game because the updates break how the mods work).
I really appreciate you keeping this up.

@ Geno Cidal I have no idea if it still works. That's kinda the meaning of "unsupported"... :)

Maybe someone else will chime in?

I am just wondering if this still works if your updated to 1.5 but haven't gotten any of the DLC's cause with all these mods, who would need DLC's,lol

@ Zyx Aabacab thanks for the point out.

@ ThermalAtlas See the last entry in the FAQ.

If that's not enough, it's probably because RimWorld has changed too much since No Sympathy was written. There's a reason this mod is unsupported, after all.

Hello how do I use CherryPicker to remove some of the certain mood debuff related to Biotech, because I still get the mood debuff when I do organ nonsense on prisoners.

@ Veryfungi3221 Usually, memes override whatever No Sympathy can do. This appears to work inconsistently for some people, which is part of the reason why this mod is no longer supported.

the desc is kinda confusing about it so: if I had Ideology installed, and there are colonists with the anti-harvesting meme and I harvested the corpses of dead raiders using Harvest Organs Post-Mortem, would the colonists still be upset?

@ brevisdiem34キツネ Indeed it would be! However, to put in an options menu would mean rewriting No Sympathy as a so-called "code mod", and it is currently a very simple "XML patch mod".

Actually, rewriting No Sympathy would probably solve all the problems that everyone is having, since we could introduce conditional logic and other neat tricks that are impossible to do with the current approach.

I used this mod because I wanted to harvest organs from prisoners (with good intent) to replace the colonist's destroyed kidney(s) and lungs. I have a look at the code and I see we can exploit guests too(!), and butcher human corpses with impunity as intended?

I was looking at the code to try and install "Grim Reality" without one overriding or overlapping the other. There was and I would have to delete the code line-by-line; It would help greatly if there were checkboxes in the mod-options to toggle sensitivity to (1)prisoners (2)guests and (3)butcherhumanlike.

@ Lily Thank you, I really appreciate the support! The community is the reason we make mods! :)

I would happily keep maintaining No Sympathy , if only it wasn't slowly becoming more and more broken for non-obvious reasons. No XML patches in the mod have been substantially changed in years, and the thoughts being patched out haven't changed, either; and, as best as I can tell, XML patching is still an essential RimWorld modding system. So I have no idea why thoughts that should be patched out, and indeed were patched out, would suddenly stop being patched.

Actually, several of the last "updates" have consisted entirely of incrementing the internal version number, just to keep RimWorld from complaining that the mod is for a previous version.

If you ever do decide to take on maintaining the mod, I'll be happy to help you as much as I can.

Oh, what a ride this was. I've been playing Rimworld ever since b19. Once it updated to 1.0 I took a break for a few months. When I got back, I began modding it heavily. This mod eventually ended up in my modlists and was (and is still) the single best quality of life mod out there.
Thank you for keeping it updated for this long! I hope it stays alive out there. If the mod breaks, I honestly might try to learn how to fix it. Either that or stay in one version of Rimworld forever, haha.
This is truly one of the best mods ever made.

o7

@ Marchiel Graham It has been a fun ride! I'm happy that so many have found the mod useful.

My only regret is that Discord (and the Googlepocalypse) has ruined any chance of finding correct, up-to-date information on how to write code mods for RimWorld. The functionality of No Sympathy seems like it should be trivial to make into such a code mod, if the process to do so was properly documented.

Thank you for your service, honored brother! I will surely miss this mod as it has been doing god's work for me since my earliest day of Alpha RimWorld

@ Gaming It has been an honor! :)

thanks for your service to the community I'll miss this mod.

@ asleepsheep You're most welcome! (:

o7 ive had this mod since i bought the game years ago, thank you for all your work <3

@ SkylerJames13 You're very welcome! It's gratifying to have been a part of something as big as RimWorld, even if it's only a very small part. :)

o7, thanks for the mod and support over all these years

its not working

Thank you!

@ Aika I'm unable to replicate the issue on my side, so... sorry, I have no idea.

@ Aika So I've looked over the code for Harvest Organs Post Mortem ; neither it nor No Sympathy have changed.

It's likely that it's either some other mod, or that RimWorld's internal code has changed again.

+: pawns only get debuff for butchering,

Hello! I'm using Harvest Organs Post Mortem mod with no sympathy together, and my pawns still get debuff. I'm already loading no sympathy as the last mod :( Please tell me if there's anything I could do with this problem. Thanks!

@ Robob Thank you for reading the description! :)

Nevermind,the description indirectly mentions that

Does this mod affect butchering? I'm trying to figure out why none of my pawns are getting penalties for butchering humanlikes

@ Daima No worries; a common problem with computers is that there is too much text to read, so people tend to not read it... and because people don't read the text, most developers don't bother writing it, so people are conditioned into not having to read text.

Oh. I guess it was too obvious for me to see it. Will try this. Thank you for pointing that out :)

@ Daima See the very first sentence in the description.

Hello. I have a ton of mods and yours was perfectly working. I just bought Biotech DLC and it's not working anymore :(
I can't salvage organs from my precious war prisonners without everyone being sad. That's dramatic.

@Zyx Abacab - Yeah i used to use "Prisoner Harvesting" and that used to work smoothly.
Going to try and move "No Sympathy" to the end of my loading order. Dosen't seem to be a 1.5 version for CherryPicker yet :'(

@ ElPolloLoco Almost all problems with No Sympathy come from an incompatibility with other mods, or from DLC.

If you have another mod that changes thoughts or moods, such as Psychology, you'll probably have to configure said mod somehow... if that's even an option. Multiple mods tend to break things. Also, make sure that No Sympathy loads after other mods.

If that fails, try using CherryPicker to disable the unwanted thoughts, as per the second-to-last entry in the FAQ.

I don't understand it. My colonists keeps having plenty of sympathy with my prisoners.
Still gets debuff for harvesting organs and organ murder.

@ Soltys You're most welcome!

Thanks a bunch! :)

Thanks!

@ OMGSplat Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Thanks for pointing it out. It should be fixed now.

You may also have to copy/paste the 1.4 information to 1.5 in the LoadFolder.xml file as well.

I don't know if it's correctly patching Biotech, Harvest Organs Post Mortem or Rim of Madness: Vampires right now.

You should know that I haven't had to really update this mod in years. Ludeon hasn't changed the prisoner thought definitions since this mod was first made, and any thought mechanics from the new DLCs are outside the scope of what this mod could change.

( No Sympathy for Prisoners was written for 1.1, when the game logic was much less sophisticated, and only simple changes were needed to cover all the cases. Getting this mod to work with the stuff introduced by Ideology and Biotech would require rewriting everything into a proper DLL mod, which is outside my skillset.)

All I actually ever do is bump up the version number. Unless Ludeon goes back and updates some ground-level foundational stuff, this mod will never need an update.

So even if I'm not around to change the version numbers, you can probably keep using this safely for years to come.

I haven't needed something this bad since ages xD

is this going to be updated to 1.5 ?

pls update

@ Soapieryeti Sure, I'll add an entry to the FAQ for this question.

Would you be able to include Valachnon's information about what to disable using cherry picker in your description? I just know I'm going to want to try find it in the future but never will find it in the comments!