The #world’s #biggest #battery maker says Elon Musk’s #4680 #cell ‘is going to #fail’ / The chairman of CATL isn't a believer in Elon's cylindrical battery quest. https://lnkd.in/gXy-x4aV 🔹️ #RobinZeng, the founder of the world’s largest #EV battery company, says #Tesla #CEO #ElonMusk’s big bet on 4680 cylindrical cell technology “is going to fail and never be successful.” Zeng, the chairman of #China’s #Contemporary #Amperex #Technology (#CATL), tells Reuters that when Musk visited China in April, “We had a very big debate, and I showed him. He was silent. He doesn’t know how to make a battery.” 🔹️ Tesla’s “tabless” 4680 cells, which are used in some of its cars, including the Cybertruck, are supposed to have “five times” more energy capacity, and the company announced in September it had produced 100 million of them. A recent report by The Information said Musk had given the team working on the batteries an end of the year deadline to deal with costs and other problems. | [By— Umar Shakir, a news writer fond of the electric vehicle lifestyle and things that plug in via USB-C. He spent over 15 years in IT support before joining The #Verge. | Nov 15, 2024 ] #technology | #Innovation | #research | theverge.com #Details— https://lnkd.in/gXy-x4aV
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🔋Tesla Plans to Launch New Battery by Year-End! #Tesla, which has been striving for five years to develop its own cylindrical battery cell, plans to launch the new version of its 4680 cell by the end of the year. This cell, which will form the basis of the structural battery pack integrated into the chassis of its electric vehicles, will provide up to a 50% cost advantage if both the anode and cathode are produced using dry coating technology. In April, Tesla parted ways with its senior battery executive Drew Baglino and nearly 25% of the battery team. Despite rumors that the 4680 cell project might be canceled due to production issues, new advancements in production have reportedly accelerated the project. According to Electrek.co, Elon Musk has instructed the battery team to have the 4680 cell, with a cathode produced using dry coating technology, ready for mass production by the end of the year. If the targets are not met and the 4680 operation fails, Tesla's dream of producing its own cell might come to an end. Other news sources suggest that Tesla is doing everything possible to produce 30% of its needed batteries in-house. If everything goes well, Tesla will be able to produce the cheapest high-nickel battery on the market. Additionally, there are talks of sourcing 4680 cells from LG Energy Solution.
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🔋 Tesla’s 4680 Battery: A Turning Point or a Missed Opportunity? ⏳️ I came across an insightful piece discussing Tesla’s much-anticipated 4680 battery, which was set to reshape the #EV industry. After years of delays, production has ramped up, but the competition has advanced quickly. With rivals like BYD and CATL offering more efficient and cost-effective solutions, the 4680 may no longer be the game-changer it was intended to be. It’s a reminder that #innovation doesn’t stop, and staying ahead in the rapidly evolving EV market requires more than catching up—it demands leading the next breakthrough. The full article is below for those interested in the details. #Sustainability #BatteryTech #Tesla
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Tesla produces 500k #4680 cells per day 👏, but they need around 6 billion a year. And that’s before you throw in energy and semi. Their ramp on the new plant is amazing especially considering how they started with the pilot plant in Fremont. Breaking the 100 million cell mark in under a year is amazing 🤩 so hats 🎩 off to them! Now they need to expand the process in a major way to cover their needs and become the only OEM not dependent on Contemporary Amperex Technology Co., Limited 😉 To add some perspective, there were around 3000 x 2170 cells in their cars before the 4680 launch. Now let’s say you need half the number of 2170 cells, and then multiply that times 2-4 million cars a year. Then you have semi and energy, but here’s the added bonus. Energy can use second Life cells for the car. This is huge for the market if they keep ramping up at this speed. Especially when all the western battery startups are either failed like Britishvolt and Proterra, but even major players like Our Next Energy (ONE) and Northvolt are struggling to reach to the same milestone as Tesla. #catl #secondlife https://lnkd.in/gWWmzUGG
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Tesla’s New Battery: Success or Failure? CATL's chairman, Robin Zeng, believes Tesla’s 4680 battery cell will never achieve success. Despite reaching the milestone of 100 million units produced, Zeng questions the design, favoring different tech. He highlighted Elon Musk’s strengths in other areas—chips, software, and mechanics—but doubted Tesla’s electrochemical expertise. CATL holds a tech licensing deal with Tesla for U.S. production, planned for 2025. Additionally, the conversation included Tesla's Full Self-Driving tech. Zeng supports it, yet criticizes Musk’s habit of overpromising timelines. The clash reveals differing visions in the battery and EV space, challenging Tesla's bold steps. What do you think? Will Tesla batteries lose in parameters against CATL? Has CEO CATL right? Write me your opinion in the comments. #emobility #chargingstation #ev #charginginfrastructure #electriccar
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