A Release Candidate/Engineering Cybertruck has been spotted in San Jose with some interesting rooftop hardware – LiDAR! This is good news for all the fans who are awaiting FSD and Autopilot, and all their features – to come to the Cybertruck.
FSD V12.5
Additionally, today on X, Elon Musk confirmed that the Cybertruck will be receiving FSD with v12.5, the next major update for FSD. While FSD v12.4.3’s rollout has been stalled recently, we have seen ADAS testing vehicles from Tesla testing on Chuck’s turn – a sure sign that v12.5 is most likely around the corner.
The big fact here is that v12.5 will be getting a stack merge for the highway and city streets stack. This is great news, as the city streets stack is running on v12.X right now, while the highway stack is still running on v11. There is a transition when you switch between stacks while FSD is running, and Autospeed gets disabled.
Elon mentioned that these vehicles on Chuck’s turn are indeed running v12.5, and not v12.4.4 or another v12.4 build. As we’ve seen in the past, once Chuck’s UPL is getting tested, a new FSD version is only a few weeks or months before release to early testers and employees.
Tesla uses LiDAR to gather ground-truth data, and then feed it into FSD. This allows Tesla to validate FSD’s depth perception and distance measurements, helping to ensure the accuracy of FSD. We talk about why Tesla uses LiDAR in greater detail in this recent article.
Tesla has finally begun to gather ground-truth data to validate the Cybertruck, which means we’re well on our way to seeing both the Cybertruck get FSD, as well as seeing V12.5 roll out soon.
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Tesla has greatly improved the smoothness of FSD visualizations in FSD V12.5.6 by fixing a 4-year-old bug. The fact that Tesla knew about this bug suggests it may have been difficult or time-consuming to fix, and they preferred to dedicate resources toward new features, but now that it’s fixed, users with FSD 12.5.6 are reporting much smoother visualizations.
Bug Fix
While not detailed, this bug that plagued the rendering pipeline had been an issue in Tesla AI’s backside for four years, according to Ashok Elluswamy, the head of Autopilot and AI at Tesla. Funnily enough, Andrej Karpathy, the previous Director of AI at Tesla, replied, “omg.”
Because we fixed a four year old bug in the rendering!
It sounds like Andrej knew about the bug in the rendering pipeline during his Tesla days but was also unable to fix it, likely due to other priorities. We’re glad to see Tesla is going back and working on squeezing the most performance from its hardware—in any capacity.
Smoother Visualizations Video
The updated visualizations are considerably smoother after the bug fix. What’s immediately noticeable is less jitter in vehicles around you and vehicles starting to show up from further away. This is a fantastic update, as it helps to provide better information for the supervising driver about what FSD sees around the vehicle.
We’re looking forward to what else Tesla can do to optimize and make its visualizations look even better. In the meantime, check out these two videos below that include the improved FSD visualizations.
We first noticed FSD 12.5.6 on update 2024.32.30 on October 8th, right before the Robotaxi event. FSD 12.5.6 is more than just bug fixes; it includes major changes such as new FSD profiles, improved lane changes, and changes to Auto Set Speed. However, it's still only available for early-access customers. While Tesla’s AI team was likely focused on the event and has now earned a well-deserved rest, it appears that this FSD release may see another revision before it is expanded to regular customers.
Tesla brought out something not many expected at its Robotaxi event—the Robovan. It’s a fairly large vehicle, and just like the Cybercab, it's fully autonomous: there is no driver’s seat, steering wheel, or pedals.
In its default configuration, the Robovan can seat up to 20 passengers, and Tesla has already envisioned multiple other uses for it, including package delivery, RVing, and others.
So, get your futuristic bus pass ready, and let’s take a ride to see what the Robovan is bringing!
Exterior
The Robovan takes Art Deco – the classic 1950’s style, to the future. It's a spectacular showcase vehicle and doesn’t look like anything you would ever expect to be pulling up to the curb to pick people up. The Robovan looks almost like a train or tram engine and has a sleek front with no visible windshield, and the wheels are tucked underneath the body, where you can’t see them.
It’s a painted aluminum shell, just like the Cybercab, but also mixed with glass. The glass is tinted dark from the exterior – so you can’t really see inside, affording a fairly high level of privacy to those in the vehicle.
One of the most interesting things about the Robovan is its super low ground clearance. It looked like it was floating mere inches off the ground when it pulled up at, We, Robot. According to Elon Musk, this super-low clearance is achieved by having an automatic load-levelling suspension that raises and lowers based on road conditions.
This means that the Robovan will be able to traverse obstacles such as speedbumps and potholes – and that this feature is likely to make its way to FSD sometime in the future. While FSD can already (mostly) correctly identify speedbumps, it cannot identify other obstacles on the road, such as debris or potholes. Having FSD be able to identify and avoid potholes to smoothen the ride would help to improve the comfort of the experience.
The Art-Deco aesthetic is back!
Not a Tesla App
Interior
The interior is quite spacious – it's able to seat up to 20 passengers in its maximum configuration. In a bus or passenger van format, the Robovan could easily be used to replace short-route buses or, with increased frequency – compete against a full-size 40-seat bus.
Tesla also intends for the Robovan to be used in a delivery capability, as it will be available to order in a format without any seating, which provides a fairly spacious interior for package handling on last-mile and local routes. It could conceivably be a competent competitor to large vans once FSD can reach a fully autonomous state.
Beyond that, Tesla also sees the Robovan being fitted for things such as Tesla Service, RVing, or any other use for vehicles with large interior spaces. There’s a lot of open space on the interior, so we’re looking forward to seeing what ideas people come up with. Maybe a mobile diner?
As per Elon, it is very easy to see out of the Robovan, as the dark windows seem to be one-way tints. Some interior videos, like the one below, also show just how much visibility is afforded to passengers. And those big glass doors? They slide open. It seems that the Robovan has the same set of doors on both sides, but all the pictures showing it off have it only opening on the street side (right side), with right-hand-drive here in North America.
Back to the passenger configuration – the interior showed off was in a clean and classic Tesla white, with lots of interior lighting and HVAC on the interior ceiling. There is a bench seat at either end of the cabin, and then a pair and single seat with an aisle dividing them. The configuration shown was symmetrical and only seated 14.
The van also features a large screen at either end of the cabin, which could be used for entertainment or route information. Tesla didn’t provide any detail on these displays, but they appear fairly large.
Beyond the delivery capacity, the Cybervan also has storage at the rear and front – both fascia plates slide upwards to expose additional storage room – essentially a bus-sized frunk and trunk.
The frunk, oddly enough, looks like it has far more capacity than the trunk in this case – with about 10 suitcases in the open frunk, while the open trunk only looks like it has capacity for 2 suitcases.
The frunk storage. Very spacious!
Not a Tesla App
The trunk storage. It seems oddly small.
Not a Tesla App
Release Date
There’s no date or pricing for the Robovan just yet. While it hails back to the 1950’s, it may be further out in the future than Tesla made it seem. Tesla didn’t share a price point or time frame for when the van would become available.
Oh, and Elon mentioned that it's called the ruh-BO-vahn. Like Suburban, but Robovan. We’d love to see what everyone thinks about its name. Let us know how you think it's pronounced.
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