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Katherine Kehoe
Licensed Professional Counselor, LPC
Verified Verified
Parker, CO 80134  (Online Only)
Is it possible that this is your circus and these are your monkeys? We all have times when we feel overwhelmed, isolated, discouraged, frustrated by a difficult relationship-when we struggle to create the life we want. It can help to have someone walk alongside you as you build on your strengths to recover what life or trauma has buried. I love to see people shed the weight of unrealistic expectations and develop practices that protect their time and emotional energy.
Is it possible that this is your circus and these are your monkeys? We all have times when we feel overwhelmed, isolated, discouraged, frustrated by a difficult relationship-when we struggle to create the life we want. It can help to have someone walk alongside you as you build on your strengths to recover what life or trauma has buried. I love to see people shed the weight of unrealistic expectations and develop practices that protect their time and emotional energy.
(303) 500-5829 View (303) 500-5829
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Michael S Everson
Licensed Professional Counselor, MA, LPC, LAC
Verified Verified
Parker, CO 80138
Everyone can benefit from a healing relationship with a counselor who is safe and trained to facilitate space to verbally process all aspects of life, including counselors themselves. In my experience working with a wide variety of clients, I have observed that people who desire change can achieve their goals in an environment where they can speak vulnerably about their experiences and have the structure to organize and challenge the automatic thoughts that have shaped their lives up till that point. Living by one’s core values is essential to thriving, so it is essential to identify them and evaluate how we abide by them.
Everyone can benefit from a healing relationship with a counselor who is safe and trained to facilitate space to verbally process all aspects of life, including counselors themselves. In my experience working with a wide variety of clients, I have observed that people who desire change can achieve their goals in an environment where they can speak vulnerably about their experiences and have the structure to organize and challenge the automatic thoughts that have shaped their lives up till that point. Living by one’s core values is essential to thriving, so it is essential to identify them and evaluate how we abide by them.
(303) 835-9414 View (303) 835-9414
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Bennie Butler
Licensed Professional Counselor
Verified Verified
Parker, CO 80134  (Online Only)
I tend to work on the issues rather then only the presenting symptoms in a person centered, direct and honest approach. I specialize in the following aspects of mental health: Trauma, Abuse, Addictions, Dual-Diagnosis, Psychosis, couples, Bi-polar, DID, Anxiety and Depression.
I tend to work on the issues rather then only the presenting symptoms in a person centered, direct and honest approach. I specialize in the following aspects of mental health: Trauma, Abuse, Addictions, Dual-Diagnosis, Psychosis, couples, Bi-polar, DID, Anxiety and Depression.
(866) 738-3081 View (866) 738-3081
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Melanie Morris
Licensed Professional Counselor, MS, LAC, LPC
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Finding someone to assist you on your journey to peace and happiness can be challenging. I am here to help. I have training in addictions and professional counseling. I have experience working with co-occurring disorders. I've work with individuals, couples and families. I work with people in and out of the justice system. Those dealing with depression, anxiety, addiction or childhood trauma. Using rational emotive behavioral techniques I can help you process through these issues and develop coping skills to support your emotional and mental well-being while learning two key important factors forgiveness and grace.
Finding someone to assist you on your journey to peace and happiness can be challenging. I am here to help. I have training in addictions and professional counseling. I have experience working with co-occurring disorders. I've work with individuals, couples and families. I work with people in and out of the justice system. Those dealing with depression, anxiety, addiction or childhood trauma. Using rational emotive behavioral techniques I can help you process through these issues and develop coping skills to support your emotional and mental well-being while learning two key important factors forgiveness and grace.
(720) 386-4063 View (720) 386-4063
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Tiffani Wadley
Clinical Social Work Candidate
Verified Verified
Parker, CO 80134
Trauma causes changes in our bodies. Once the event is over, our bodies don't just go back to 'normal.' They can stay in survival mode for years. This can cause physical, emotional, and psychological deterioration. EMDR is one of the most effective ways to heal trauma. In healing the trauma, you can show up more fully in your relationships and life.
Trauma causes changes in our bodies. Once the event is over, our bodies don't just go back to 'normal.' They can stay in survival mode for years. This can cause physical, emotional, and psychological deterioration. EMDR is one of the most effective ways to heal trauma. In healing the trauma, you can show up more fully in your relationships and life.
(720) 802-4116 View (720) 802-4116
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Mia Bowick
Marriage & Family Therapist, MA, MFT, RDT
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Littleton, CO 80130
Not accepting new clients
I always start where you are. What are your goals? What do you want to get out of therapy? My job is to accompany you on your journey to wellness; bearing witness, offering feedback and facilitating the overall process so that you get where you want to go. I work from a number of different modalities and offer a flexible, creative and negotiable attitude toward the work that we will do. I want to know what works for you, and what doesn’t. My hope for our work is to build a trusting relationship in which the trials of life can be navigated with grace, inner wounds can be healed, and your soul can be nurtured.
I always start where you are. What are your goals? What do you want to get out of therapy? My job is to accompany you on your journey to wellness; bearing witness, offering feedback and facilitating the overall process so that you get where you want to go. I work from a number of different modalities and offer a flexible, creative and negotiable attitude toward the work that we will do. I want to know what works for you, and what doesn’t. My hope for our work is to build a trusting relationship in which the trials of life can be navigated with grace, inner wounds can be healed, and your soul can be nurtured.
(720) 706-7992 View (720) 706-7992
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Laura Schmitt
Psychologist, PhD
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Lone Tree, CO 80124
Waitlist for new clients
My specialty in rehab psych is all about helping people to transform hardship and change into an opportunity to construct new life paths. Do you want a better quality of life but face barriers that seem insurmountable? I employ a wide variety of evidence-based psychological tools to help you identify: personal goals, the barriers that challenge you in reaching those goals, and strategies and resources to overcome those barriers. I have particular expertise in working with stroke survivors and people living with spinal cord injury, brain injury, and chronic illnesses.
My specialty in rehab psych is all about helping people to transform hardship and change into an opportunity to construct new life paths. Do you want a better quality of life but face barriers that seem insurmountable? I employ a wide variety of evidence-based psychological tools to help you identify: personal goals, the barriers that challenge you in reaching those goals, and strategies and resources to overcome those barriers. I have particular expertise in working with stroke survivors and people living with spinal cord injury, brain injury, and chronic illnesses.
(720) 797-7127 View (720) 797-7127
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Alex Spare / Roadrunner Counseling LLC
Licensed Professional Counselor, MA, LPC
Verified Verified
Lone Tree, CO 80124
My focus is humanistic, trauma-informed, and relational/cultural, which means two main things: 1) I view counseling as a collaborative partnership between equals. All individuals are experts in their own lives and possess the ability to move toward awareness, acceptance, and connection. 2) I believe external factors often influence thoughts, emotions, and behaviors, and that individuals can grow and even thrive if they are willing and ready to look honestly at whatever has them feeling "stuck." I often help people think through and reprocess complex developmental, psychological and cultural trauma influencing symptoms they present.
My focus is humanistic, trauma-informed, and relational/cultural, which means two main things: 1) I view counseling as a collaborative partnership between equals. All individuals are experts in their own lives and possess the ability to move toward awareness, acceptance, and connection. 2) I believe external factors often influence thoughts, emotions, and behaviors, and that individuals can grow and even thrive if they are willing and ready to look honestly at whatever has them feeling "stuck." I often help people think through and reprocess complex developmental, psychological and cultural trauma influencing symptoms they present.
(720) 707-2547 View (720) 707-2547
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Shannon M. Hicks
Counselor, MA, LPC, NCC
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Lone Tree, CO 80124
Are you tired of feeling confused, lonely or defeated? Are you wanting a better relationship with your teenager, your spouse or God? Are you grieving the loss of a loved one or the pain of your childhood? If you answered yes to any of these questions, then let me walk with you and guide you to living with Joy and fulfillment. Let me help you break free from the negative thought patterns that lead to destructive behaviors. I believe with guidance you will identify what hinders you and how to remove the roadblocks to begin living a life with meaning.
Are you tired of feeling confused, lonely or defeated? Are you wanting a better relationship with your teenager, your spouse or God? Are you grieving the loss of a loved one or the pain of your childhood? If you answered yes to any of these questions, then let me walk with you and guide you to living with Joy and fulfillment. Let me help you break free from the negative thought patterns that lead to destructive behaviors. I believe with guidance you will identify what hinders you and how to remove the roadblocks to begin living a life with meaning.
(720) 549-9309 View (720) 549-9309
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Mallory Nicklas
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW
Verified Verified
Castle Rock, CO 80108
WHY HORSES? Often times we feel stuck or unsure how to move forward, how to cope, how to communicate, or how to connect. Horses provide the opportunity for humans to explore and discover their abilities to do all of those things by providing authentic bio-feedback. The truth is, horses don’t lie! In providing bio-feedback, human partners become self -aware, as well as identify ways to cultivate a meaningful, empathic, and reciprocal relationship, become more mindful, regulate where needed, and eventually create healthier thought and behavior patterns.
WHY HORSES? Often times we feel stuck or unsure how to move forward, how to cope, how to communicate, or how to connect. Horses provide the opportunity for humans to explore and discover their abilities to do all of those things by providing authentic bio-feedback. The truth is, horses don’t lie! In providing bio-feedback, human partners become self -aware, as well as identify ways to cultivate a meaningful, empathic, and reciprocal relationship, become more mindful, regulate where needed, and eventually create healthier thought and behavior patterns.
(720) 741-6199 View (720) 741-6199
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Kelli Korn
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW
Verified Verified
Parker, CO 80138  (Online Only)
Not accepting new clients
I love working with clients of all ages, and with various concerns. I do take an efficient approach, knowing time and energy are valuable resources and should be used wisely. I aim to get to the heart of the matter so that clients can see healing and success right away, so I am the best fit for clients ready to see changes. My goal is to help each client identify the root issue so that we can create realistic goals that help them move towards healing and growth.
I love working with clients of all ages, and with various concerns. I do take an efficient approach, knowing time and energy are valuable resources and should be used wisely. I aim to get to the heart of the matter so that clients can see healing and success right away, so I am the best fit for clients ready to see changes. My goal is to help each client identify the root issue so that we can create realistic goals that help them move towards healing and growth.
(720) 730-6498 View (720) 730-6498
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Ashley Moore
Marriage & Family Therapist Associate, MFTC
Verified Verified
Parker, CO 80138
The clients that I typically work with come from diverse backgrounds and present with an array of concerns, including but certainly not limited to anxiety, depression, trauma, relational dynamics, infidelity, parenting changes, nontraditional family styles, LGBTQ+ identities, kink, polyamory, non-monogamous relationships, marginalized populations, underserved populations, and the list continues. No matter what brings you to therapy, if this is your first or fourth time, I believe healing is always possible, and you can enact change in your life.
The clients that I typically work with come from diverse backgrounds and present with an array of concerns, including but certainly not limited to anxiety, depression, trauma, relational dynamics, infidelity, parenting changes, nontraditional family styles, LGBTQ+ identities, kink, polyamory, non-monogamous relationships, marginalized populations, underserved populations, and the list continues. No matter what brings you to therapy, if this is your first or fourth time, I believe healing is always possible, and you can enact change in your life.
(720) 902-9914 View (720) 902-9914
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Janelle Winders
Licensed Professional Counselor, LPC
Verified Verified
Parker, CO 80134
I'm a Licensed Professional Counselor with a Masters in Counseling Psychology/Counselor Education from the University of Colorado at Denver. I provide individual counseling for children, adolescents and adults. My approach is strength based, focusing on the strengths that you already possess as building blocks for positive change. We will focus on identifying thoughts and behaviors that contribute to your struggle and aim to make changes in those areas to allow you to thrive and feel in control of your life. Together we will focus on solutions, rather than problems, thereby achieving sustainable changes so you can enjoy your life.
I'm a Licensed Professional Counselor with a Masters in Counseling Psychology/Counselor Education from the University of Colorado at Denver. I provide individual counseling for children, adolescents and adults. My approach is strength based, focusing on the strengths that you already possess as building blocks for positive change. We will focus on identifying thoughts and behaviors that contribute to your struggle and aim to make changes in those areas to allow you to thrive and feel in control of your life. Together we will focus on solutions, rather than problems, thereby achieving sustainable changes so you can enjoy your life.
(720) 386-4580 View (720) 386-4580
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Amanda Kramer
Licensed Professional Counselor Candidate, BBA, MA, LPCC, LLPC
Verified Verified
Parker, CO 80134  (Online Only)
Welcome! I specialize in working with adult children of (and/or partners to) narcissists, those with borderline personality disorder, and the emotionally abusive/immature. My clients say they’re relieved to have found a therapist who "gets" them. I am ready to "get" and care for you, too. Are you experiencing anxiety, depression, low self-worth, self-doubt/blame, shame, guilt, a sense of obligation? Are you an expert "people pleaser" because you had to be? Did you receive attention, love, or acceptance based on certain conditions? Did you experience controlling behavior and/or inconsistency/instability that felt unsafe? I get it.
Welcome! I specialize in working with adult children of (and/or partners to) narcissists, those with borderline personality disorder, and the emotionally abusive/immature. My clients say they’re relieved to have found a therapist who "gets" them. I am ready to "get" and care for you, too. Are you experiencing anxiety, depression, low self-worth, self-doubt/blame, shame, guilt, a sense of obligation? Are you an expert "people pleaser" because you had to be? Did you receive attention, love, or acceptance based on certain conditions? Did you experience controlling behavior and/or inconsistency/instability that felt unsafe? I get it.
(720) 664-9584 View (720) 664-9584
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Elena Allen
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW
Verified Verified
Parker, CO 80134
Elena is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and has been practicing as a Social Worker since 2015. Elena has experience working with past clients in many different settings including: Residential Treatment Centers, Inpatient Hospitalizations, Partial Hospitalization, Intensive Outpatient, and Outpatient.
Elena is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and has been practicing as a Social Worker since 2015. Elena has experience working with past clients in many different settings including: Residential Treatment Centers, Inpatient Hospitalizations, Partial Hospitalization, Intensive Outpatient, and Outpatient.
(720) 818-9882 View (720) 818-9882
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Emily Gail Wagner
Marriage & Family Therapist Intern, BA
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Parker, CO 80134
Specializing in relational dynamics, communication patterns, and family systems, I provide compassionate counseling services to individuals, couples, and families under supervision. With a focus on strengthening relationships, resolving conflicts, and fostering emotional intimacy, I utilize systemic approaches to family therapy. I am passionate about helping individuals, couples, and families navigate life's transitions, heal from past wounds, and cultivate resilience.
Specializing in relational dynamics, communication patterns, and family systems, I provide compassionate counseling services to individuals, couples, and families under supervision. With a focus on strengthening relationships, resolving conflicts, and fostering emotional intimacy, I utilize systemic approaches to family therapy. I am passionate about helping individuals, couples, and families navigate life's transitions, heal from past wounds, and cultivate resilience.
(833) 454-0114 View (833) 454-0114
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Sarah M Lewis
Licensed Professional Counselor, LPC, NCC
Verified Verified
Parker, CO 80138
By reaching out, you have made the first step in healing relationships and transforming your life! Sometimes we need extra support to work through our problems. We often need accountability, encouragement, or different skills to overcome challenges. Other times we just need a safe space to make sense of our life experiences. My approach to counseling is client-centered and collaborative. The therapeutic relationship is essential to effective counseling and requires honesty, vulnerability, and courage. I provide a judgment-free space where you can be yourself! I integrate tools from a variety of theories based on your goals.
By reaching out, you have made the first step in healing relationships and transforming your life! Sometimes we need extra support to work through our problems. We often need accountability, encouragement, or different skills to overcome challenges. Other times we just need a safe space to make sense of our life experiences. My approach to counseling is client-centered and collaborative. The therapeutic relationship is essential to effective counseling and requires honesty, vulnerability, and courage. I provide a judgment-free space where you can be yourself! I integrate tools from a variety of theories based on your goals.
(303) 529-7095 View (303) 529-7095
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Level Up Personal Coaching
Registered Psychotherapist
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Parker, CO 80138
My professional clients most commonly seek help with: career and professional coaching, leadership coaching, and strategy development. My individual clients most commonly seek help with: improving communication skills, deepening relationship intimacy, sexual performance issues, mismatched desire, and expanding sexual horizons. Currently accepting new clients for telehealth session. My practice is inclusive to all gender identities and relationship configurations.
My professional clients most commonly seek help with: career and professional coaching, leadership coaching, and strategy development. My individual clients most commonly seek help with: improving communication skills, deepening relationship intimacy, sexual performance issues, mismatched desire, and expanding sexual horizons. Currently accepting new clients for telehealth session. My practice is inclusive to all gender identities and relationship configurations.
(720) 605-3029 View (720) 605-3029
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Daren O Norris
Psychologist, PsyD
Verified Verified
Parker, CO 80138
Accepting New Clients; does not accept insurance but can provide out of network paperwork/superbill. Military/law enforcement/small business owner discount. Too often people wait...and wait, hoping things will "just get better." Or maybe there is a stigma around seeking mental health services. My passion is helping people who have been stuck for too long, maybe even thinking all hope is gone. Being a veteran myself, and more specifically a Navy Psychologist, has enabled an understanding of this unique population. I am aware of the intricacies in navigating the VA and maintaining security clearances in careers after the military.
Accepting New Clients; does not accept insurance but can provide out of network paperwork/superbill. Military/law enforcement/small business owner discount. Too often people wait...and wait, hoping things will "just get better." Or maybe there is a stigma around seeking mental health services. My passion is helping people who have been stuck for too long, maybe even thinking all hope is gone. Being a veteran myself, and more specifically a Navy Psychologist, has enabled an understanding of this unique population. I am aware of the intricacies in navigating the VA and maintaining security clearances in careers after the military.
(303) 529-1329 View (303) 529-1329
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Cathryn Pacheco
Pre-Licensed Professional, BS, MFT-I
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Parker, CO 80134
My passion lies in working closely with families and couples, helping them navigate life’s challenges, build on their strengths, and foster genuine connections. I deeply respect the unique stories that each family and couple bring to the counseling room. I honor these narratives by providing personalized, evidence-based therapies tailored to their specific needs. Creating a safe and empathetic environment where clients feel truly seen and understood is my top priority.
My passion lies in working closely with families and couples, helping them navigate life’s challenges, build on their strengths, and foster genuine connections. I deeply respect the unique stories that each family and couple bring to the counseling room. I honor these narratives by providing personalized, evidence-based therapies tailored to their specific needs. Creating a safe and empathetic environment where clients feel truly seen and understood is my top priority.
(720) 730-6029 View (720) 730-6029
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Number of Therapists in Douglas County, CO

1,000+

Average cost per session

$145

Therapists in Douglas County, CO who prioritize treating:

93% Anxiety
87% Depression
77% Relationship Issues
74% Trauma and PTSD
73% Self Esteem
70% Stress
68% Coping Skills

Average years in practice

11 Years

Top 3 insurances accepted

80% Aetna
73% Cigna and Evernorth
70% UnitedHealthcare UHC | UBH

How Therapists in Douglas County, CO see their clients

73% In Person and Online
27% Online Only

Gender breakdown

82% Female
17% Male
1% Non-Binary
FAQs - About Therapy and Counseling

How can I find a therapist in Douglas County?

Search for nearby therapists or counselors by inputting your city, town, or suburb; or zip code; or a provider’s name into the search bar. From there, you can filter providers by the issues they treat, cost, insurance, gender, and other factors to find providers who are well-suited to your needs. To navigate between locations within the same country, enter a new city or zip code into the search bar.

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Is everyone in the Psychology Today Therapy Directory a licensed therapist?

The Psychology Today directory lists providers who offer legitimate mental health services to the public, including psychologists, psychiatrists, social workers, and counselors.

Many have been licensed by the country or state where they practice; providers whose license or primary credential has been verified by Psychology Today are signified by a “Verified” symbol. Some clinicians or organizations provide services for which their state or country does not offer licenses, such as pastoral counseling. They may be selectively included without the “Verified” seal.

What’s the difference between a psychologist, a therapist, and a counselor?

Therapists, psychologists, and counselors are all licensed mental health professionals. In the US, psychologists have earned a doctoral degree. The terms “therapist” and “counselor” are used somewhat interchangeably, but generally therapists offer longer-term, mental health care, while counselors offer shorter-term care that may focus on one domain, such as marriage, career, or academic challenges.

Clients should consider factors such as insurance coverage and their primary reason(s) for seeking therapy to determine the type of professional best suited to their needs. Someone struggling with mental health challenges such as depression or anxiety, for example, may wish to seek out a clinical psychologist or therapist, while someone navigating career obstacles or marital upheaval may benefit from seeing a counselor who can offer short-term, targeted support.

What type of therapy is right for me?

The type of therapy best suited to a particular individual depends on several factors, including their primary reason for seeking therapy, their preferred timeline (some therapy types last for a set number of sessions, while others are open-ended), and their personality and preferences—some may prefer a more structured approach. For many individuals, multiple types of therapy could provide a good fit.

How much does therapy cost?

The cost of therapy depends on a number of variables, including location and the therapist’s experience and training. On average, a therapy session in the United States could cost between $100 and $200 or more. If you have insurance, the expense of mental health care is typically lower, but it varies based on your insurance plan details and whether you choose an in-network or out-of-network mental healthcare provider.

What are more affordable or low cost therapy solutions?

Many therapists offer sliding scale payments, usually on a limited number of slots, which consists in an agreement between the therapist and a client to pay a reduced rate. Therapists who provide such arrangements often consider the client's income or ability to pay, but the extent of the discount is ultimately at the therapist's discretion. Furthermore, while group therapy may have different goals and benefits compared to individual therapy, it can be a more affordable solution to address certain types of issues.

Is online therapy cheaper than in-person therapy?

Many therapists charge the same amount for online therapy as they do for in-person therapy—though clients may still find this cost-effective if it cuts down on their transportation costs. Health insurance plans often offer equivalent coverage for online and in-person therapy; indeed, in many places, they are legally required to do so. Text-based or on-demand therapy apps may be cheaper than traditional one-on-one psychotherapy; however, the practice may be less effective and is not likely to be covered by insurance.

Is online therapy a good option?

Therapy conducted online can be just as effective as in-person therapy, as long as there is a strong alliance between the client and the therapist. To find a therapist who provides telehealth services to clients in your area, click “Online Therapy” on the directory homepage and search by your city or town or your zip code.

Are therapy sessions confidential?

Confidentiality is a crucial part of the therapeutic relationship. Therapists in the United States are bound by the regulations set out by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), which aims to protect sensitive health information. With very few exceptions, a therapist will only discuss their client with others when the client has given their written permission. The instances in which a therapist would be required to disclose personal information are: if a client poses a danger to themselves or others, if the therapist suspects the abuse of a child or an elderly or otherwise dependent adult, or if they are legally forced to by court order. These exceptions to the confidentiality agreement are usually discussed with a client before their first session.

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